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7 hours ago, Glorious NSE said:

Have done a few bits since the last post, but haven't documented any of it - sorry....

Anyhow, as much to bookmark the very useful roof weathering shots as much as anything - here's some lunchtime youtube viewing!
 

 

 

That was much more entertaining than what the missus has put on the tele ;) good find.

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So to catch up, I sold some excess US stock at Armitage which let me order some more bits, the Hakone Tozan loco and EW1 set, and the rest of the GEX coaches. 

 

Actually that's not strictly true, I cocked up the order and ended up with two sets of 4x GEX coaches rather than one and the extra EW1s. :huh::D

 

Really not sure what to do with the extras...do I trade, or squirrel in case I do want a bigger layout on this theme, or use them as kitbash fodder? Hmm... 

 

Anyhow, my pair of Loks had a little attention. 

 

644 has its lower colour repainted to represent the livery it wore more recently, and the roof has been weathered. 

 

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With 622, I was a little disappointed in Katos finish, I have part repainted the ends to red (they looked a wierd orange colour) and used a black marker to get rid of more orange plastic round some of the windows, a bit of roof weathering in the pan wells again to finish it off..

 

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Coaching stock, I painted the interior of one of the GEX cars and I think it helps, so will probably do the rest of the set... 

 

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The pair of EW1s are interesting. Had a play at stripping one down to see what kitbashes are possible. The number of separate bits is quite high so there are possibilities I think. 

 

In the short term the 2nd class coach has had a slight fade and matt varnish, making them all look slightly different in finish as the real ones are seems plausible. 

 

I gave the roofs a slight weather too, looking at that video earlier I should have gone further though! 

 

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I also made a start on the Aussichtswagen kits. 

 

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The chassis are bent, but when it come to fixing them to the body part should straighten them up as that bends very slightly the other way!! 

 

Roofs look like they will be fun to fit too. 

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On freight stock I've been picking up the odd cheap s/h wagon to play with as potential kitbash fodder. 

 

First was a Fleischmann wagon, body part removed here:

 

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Think this one might work well as the basis for one of these small dropside wagons which are still in departmental use, a bonus is the model has offset axles as many real RhB wagons seem to have but most donor chassis don't! 

 

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Also this Peco ferry open, as yet untouched. Length is about right for one of the 4 wheel intermodals, but that wide axle spacing may annoy me too much to accept it.... 

 

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2 hours ago, Glorious NSE said:

Overall looks a little tall though, I think I might try and lower the roof of the second one. 

 

 

Think it would look better if you can, prototype seems to be same (ish) height as coaching stock.

 

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I think they should broadly match the coaching stock, but the real ones are a bit of a mixed bag, when I went on the croc shuttles earlier in the year, the pair of opens in the middle were a long way from being twins.

 

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Note the difference in roofline between them

 

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and the one I rode from a sunny Arosa to a very rainy Chur was a double ended, longer type, fortunately with a bit more roof cover!

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I was thinking this would make quite a nice little etch.

 

Jon

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19 hours ago, jonhall said:

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Thanks all - yes the "planked" 4 wheelers are taller (and I think a little shorter in length?) - unfortunately #2096 pictured here in Jon's photo above is the prototype one and it's a shorter (height) example.

#2111 is the solitary bogie fitted one with the full roof in the fleet, same as Jim's photo, which would make a really nice one to model one day (I think I will have spare lettering from this one which would work) - I wonder if the upcoming Gourmino car could provide the lower half - though I guess that'd be an expensive way of doing it.
http://www.haribu.ch/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=224

Looking again at this model I think the extra height is in the bottom half if it (depth of "floor") - so this isn't going to have a simple and accurate fix - but reducing the roof height is probably a good compromise way to stop it standing out too much when coupled to other cars.

I don't think it's the end of the world, but I will give it some thought as to the best way forward...
 

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On 17/11/2019 at 18:02, jonhall said:

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and the one I rode from a sunny Arosa to a very rainy Chur was a double ended (...)

 

Many many years ago I got my face burned with the sun, thanks to the 2 axles panoramic car  :P

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1 hour ago, VanBasten said:

Many many years ago I got my face burned with the sun, thanks to the 2 axles panoramic car  :P

I had the opposite - I had to wear every piece of clothing I had, and even then I kept going back to the enclosed coaches to warm up!

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Bit of Google-fu - 2091-2093 were Bernina Railway goods wagon conversions, predating the RhB (though with lots of more recent mods) - wagons were themselves conversions from even earlier wagons, which date back to the opening of the Bernina line! 

 

https://www.berninabahn.ch/rollmaterial-berninabahn/l-303-b2-2092/

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Would agree - much heavier and more roof supports because of that - Pic of the original setup:
https://www.bahnbilder.de/bild/schweiz~rhaetische-bahn~personenwagen/147095/rhb---b-2111-am-15102000.html

Scrub the idea of using the Gourmino car as a basis anyhow - had forgotten they only had doors one end!

On another subject - I had got a bit frustrated trying to keep track of the different 1/150 RhB kits on Shapeways so created a list - here's the link if it's useful.
https://www.shapeways.com/designer/gloriousnse/lists/1-150-scale-rhb-models?s=0#more-products

I've deliberately not included any models which have since become available in RTR plastic from Kato and MDS.

If there's any I've missed please let me know and I'll add them.

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Purists, probably better go look over there for a minute... :sarcastichand:

 

So this arrived.... 

 

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Whilst this might eventually provide a donor chassis for something more proto - in the short term I thought I'd give it a quick makeover to get it into service. 

 

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The chassis on this new run is really nice, it's got a bit more weight and compensation which I think improves both pickup and tractive effort over the previous. 

 

it handles a 6 car GEX set with no issues. 

 

DCC could be fun, and I need to work out how to MT coupler it, but other than that I think it's well worth the money. Comes with a couple of wagons which could have possibilities too... 

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