Imaginary Locomotives

[Steve K]

As I mentioned, though, it does have a prototype, just not a UK one. Google "Plymouth MDT" and you'll find several references, including other models. No reason, of course, why one couldn't have been imported for use by a private company, and painted in a UK-style livery...

[Cornish Triang Paul]

Does anybody know the whereabouts of any drawings to the proposed GWR 2-6-0 Pannier Tank or better still, can post them on here ??

[S.A.C Martin]

 

 

Last two pics, I promise. "Photographic Grey" temporarily applied for the competition it was taking part in. Came joint first! Lost out on livery. May go BR Dark Green with some modifications to the running plate next.

[scots region]

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Edited September 10, 2011 by scots region

[Sailor Charon]

Can't remember where I found it, and if its a copyright violation, then please feel free to delete it.

[Sailor Charon]

Oh well, It' still very much a work in progress, but here's a look at the pacific version of the jubilee that I'm cobbling together in N.

As you can see it's a Britannia boiler on top of a Jubilee chassis with a V2 trailing bogie.

Before I try and do something about the gap under the boiler I need to solder a wire so that the electrical pickup works

[Cornish Triang Paul]

Many thanks for the Pannier. The painting looks quite Don Brecon ! A charming subject which i shall have to study......... .

[Guest Belgian]

Not imaginary, but a might-have-been was Adams' proposed 2-6-0 for the LSWR. Other than Don Bradley's reference to it in his LSWR Locomotives book, does anyone have any details of this or has anyone built a model thereof?

 

JE

[Cornish Triang Paul]

Regarding the Pannier, was there an intended use for it anyone ??

[Sailor Charon]

Regarding the Pannier, was there an intended use for it anyone ??

Let's see... according to the book it was drawn up in 1945. What was it for well, lighter axle loading would have made it more widely available, and the outside cylinders would have eased maintenance. Other than that...

[Cornish Triang Paul]

A replacement for Cornish 44/45xxs ?? Definatly a project coming on.

[34theletterbetweenB&D]

Cannot help but feel that a Locomotive Commitee assessment of the 2-6-0PT proposal versus the existing 45xx design, would have been 'build more 45xx, as the better all around machine (guiding pony truck each end makes it more suitable for faster work) and it avoids the introduction of another class.

[Sylvian Tennant]

Interesting ideas on here! I shall be looking around for some inspiration in the near future

[brightspark]

How about 125s with pantographs?

Or

steam boilers in each power car and some kind of turbine drive? Would have to think about the fuel source though.

[scots region]

I would recomend to anyone who wants to seriously model something out of the ordinary to invest in a copy of Robin Barnes 'Locomotives that never were'. Its a fantastic read for those long winter nights.

 

Edit:04/02/12

I've been looking at the V4 design and I've been wondering whether it could be modified to take a slightly longer boiler and a leading Four-wheel bogie, to give you a nice looking A9 light pacific.

 

ScR

Edited February 4, 2012 by scots region

[18B]

My thoughts would be for,

 

a double cabbed Class 20,

a single cabbed 58 on pairs aka Class 20 style,

the Co-co HST as mentioned,

an early HST verion of a single cabbed 47 at each end, or even a Western, as I understadn their roof line was designed to match the MkI? and have them either end of 10 MkI's.

 

The class 38, which I believe never got as far as a drawing depsite lots of talking,

 

The class 48 was it, the replacement for the 47's mooted in the late 80's was it? something like an 89 perhaps?

 

Peaks,40's,37's, Deltic's etc, anything with a nose but instead it all pushed right upto the end of the bogies to give flush front end.

[DavidB-AU]

In the 1980s there was a also a proposed single ended Bo-Bo class 18 to replace the class 20s (probably with a 58 cab) and a Co-Co class 88 (electric version of the 58).

 

Cheers

David

[scots region]

Re: the Class 20, one thing that might make more sense that a cab at the other end, would be building dedicated "slave units" I.E. cabless type ones for simple raw power, with this an entire lash up of two or four units could be controlled by one source, a single '20'.

 

BTW: I've said it before but, an EWS clayton anyone?

 

ScR

[Catkins]

How about 125s with pantographs?

Or

steam boilers in each power car and some kind of turbine drive? Would have to think about the fuel source though.

 

You could always have oil fired steam power cars.

[Catkins]

The class 38, which I believe never got as far as a drawing depsite lots of talking,

The class 48 was it, the replacement for the 47's mooted in the late 80's was it? something like an 89 perhaps?

 

The 38 has been mentioned on here before - it was intended to be a replacement for the 37's.

The 48 was the TOPS classification for five 47's that had different, and more powerful, sulzer engines than the main fleet. They were re-engined with standard units.

[papagolfjuliet]

It's a Lima model, from their "British HO" range, although in fact it's based on a US prototype.

 

See the "locomotives" section on limabritishho.co.uk for more details.

 

Mind you, I seem to remember Chris Nevard posting a photo of one which he had cut down in such a way that it looked a lot like this: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/foxfield/leys.htm

[Sylvian Tennant]

I have recently thought about the concept of a BR Standard 10F mallet. My friend started me off when he saw a continental layout at an exhibition. Apparently there was a loco utilising a Dapol 9F body and two Hornby terrier chassis. It started me thinking about a final FINAL design in a similar vien to the big boys. Purely imaginative but I like the idea.

[BernardTPM]

Having designed a number of narrow gauge diesel electric vehicles, based on the actual work of Armstrong Whitworth in the 1930s as shown in "Armstrong Whitworth - A pioneer of World Diesel Traction" by the late Brian Webb, I've moved up in gauge to show a potential alternative to Gresley's A4s. It's a combination of the bogie and chassis designs of the articulated power house/articulated railcars designs used in South America with the body and internal configuration of the 800hp 'Universal' loco that was trialled by the LNER in 1933. A few technical details:
Each Bo-Bo-Bo articulated twin unit has a driving cab at one end and weighs 105 tons. Inside are 2x Armstrong Sulzer 8LD28 800hp engines, 6x Crompton Parkinson 250hp traction motors and an Armstrong Saurer 6BXD 80hp auxiliary engine. Total installed traction HP = 3200, reduced to 2240 at rail for two twin units, at end of Coronation coach set weighing 270 tons. The complete 'Coronation' train complete weighs 480 tons, geared for normal top service speed of 90 mph and has a balancing speed on 1 in 100 gradient of 87.5 mph
 

The Coronation coaches would be similar to those built, though no observation car, of course. Heating and the kitchens would be all-electric, the latter each fitted with a 6BXD as fitted to the power twins. Three 3-car articulated units, two 3rd/3rd/3rd Kitchen, plus one 1st,1st, Brake1st, the underframes based on the lightweight trussed designs used by Armstrong Whitworth, but with standard LNER articulation bogies.

 

Edited September 14, 2022 by BernardTPM

[62613]

How to get yourself lynched at an exhibition! No, actually, I wonder what it would have looked like when running.

[shortliner]

Gentlepersonages, I offer you a choice of designs http://bates-r-us.org/birdwater/ including the 0-2-0 Cab-Forward

Edited March 9, 2012 by shortliner