jessy1692 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 8 hours ago, NHY 581 said: Mountain Ash. That looks like a model worthy of 'how realistic' 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 More fireless locos... Leicester Power Station 1971 Early 70s Castlemeads Power Station 1973 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 Procter & Gamble, Trafford Park Date unknown ECC Marsh Mills Works, Plympton, 30th May 1971. English Electric Vulcan Works 0-4-0DH 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 Brimsdown Power Station, Enfield 1970 Imperial Paper Mills gravesend 1976 1972 1970 1971 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted November 29, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2019 There's a channel on YouTube called 'Ta455Driver' which has lots of lovely colour video of industrial steam in the 1970s. https://www.youtube.com/user/ta455driver/search?query=industrial Here are some examples: 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post montyburns56 Posted November 29, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) A nice find and it has highlighted a few locations that I was not aware of such as these at Ladysmith Colliery in Whitehaven. 1972 1971 Check out the wheels on the tipper wagons! This 1970 picture at Howgill Brake Shunt, Whitehaven is full of atmosphere Edited November 29, 2019 by montyburns56 22 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted November 29, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2019 Fantastic pictures and rope worked inclines too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post montyburns56 Posted November 29, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2019 A few more of the Howgill incline Undated 1970 19 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 I'm particularly pleased to find some pictures of Astley Green Colliery in Leigh as it's fairly local to me. 1974 1970 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, russ p said: Fantastic pictures and rope worked inclines too I wasn't even aware of Howgill incline until about 10 minutes ago and now I want to build a model of it! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, montyburns56 said: A nice find and it has highlighted a few locations that I was not aware of such as these at Ladysmith Colliery in Whitehaven. 1972 1971 Check out the wheels on the tipper wagons! This 1970 picture at Howgill Brake Shunt, Whitehaven is full of atmosphere Fabulous pictures. I have my own theory about the "Hudson" tippers. Suddenly built in large numbers for newly nationalised industries under post war austerity, they recycled wheels and buffers from condemned pow wagons. It wasn't unusual to find examples with mismatched wheels or buffers as my own rake illustrate. Edited November 30, 2019 by doilum Missing photo 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 11 hours ago, montyburns56 said: A few more of the Howgill incline Undated 1970 I love this photo, superb atmosphere, just look at that pointwork! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted November 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2019 I’ve always wondered about making a model based around the Whitehaven area. Wasn’t there somewhere where standard gauge and narrow gauge ran side by side? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted November 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2019 16 hours ago, montyburns56 said: A few more of the Howgill incline Undated 1970 Oh wow! This needs a porn button it's so good! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 On 21/11/2019 at 19:04, montyburns56 said: Empire Paper Mill, Greenhithe 1971 And their replacement.... Fifth and Sixth pictures down - a very odd-looking beast indeed. Obviously no longer steam-powered as there are no piston rods, crossheads or con rods. Some sort of conversion to diesel power, perhaps, with the cylinders retained to keep up the weight and balance? From what's left of it I'd say it was a small Barclay, maybe a 12-inch. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted November 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2019 37 minutes ago, Ruston said: Fifth and Sixth pictures down - a very odd-looking beast indeed. Obviously no longer steam-powered as there are no piston rods, crossheads or con rods. Some sort of conversion to diesel power, perhaps, with the cylinders retained to keep up the weight and balance? From what's left of it I'd say it was a small Barclay, maybe a 12-inch. Gordon's caption says: If you thought the Arthur Koppel fireless at this works was unusual, this locomotive probably beats it. '3' was a former Andrew Barclay 0-4-0ST (works No.2167 of 1946) rebuilt as an 0-4-0DH by W.R. Cunis at Empire Paper Mill, Greenhithe. Seen on the quayside alongside the River Thames on 21st April 1971. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium figworthy Posted November 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2019 On 29/11/2019 at 19:57, montyburns56 said: A few more of the Howgill incline What is happening by that bridge across the incline ? is it a pair of runaway wagons, or is one being loaded there ? Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 9 hours ago, russ p said: Oh wow! This needs a porn button it's so good! Calm your self young man ! Have a look at the link provided once calm: https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=54.5492&lon=-3.5962&layers=168&right=BingHyb Gibbo. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted November 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said: Calm your self young man ! Have a look at the link provided once calm: https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=54.5492&lon=-3.5962&layers=168&right=BingHyb Gibbo. Great link didn't realise it was connected to Bransty 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted November 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2019 30 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said: Calm your self young man ! Have a look at the link provided once calm: https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=54.5492&lon=-3.5962&layers=168&right=BingHyb Gibbo. Thanks to this thread, I've been having a good look at this area. The incline and infrastructure in the photos are a much later installation then that shown on the map (which is dated 1892-1914) Here is a later version, dated 1944 - 1967: https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=54.5483&lon=-3.5936&layers=170&right=BingHyb (if it works!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Is this the same incline that served Albright & Wilson's Marchon plant? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 19 hours ago, DLT said: Thanks to this thread, I've been having a good look at this area. The incline and infrastructure in the photos are a much later installation then that shown on the map (which is dated 1892-1914) Here is a later version, dated 1944 - 1967: https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=54.5483&lon=-3.5936&layers=170&right=BingHyb (if it works!) Yeah, you've highlighted the fact that they must have straightened the incline at a later date which is surprising for this type of obsolete infrastructure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Fat Controller said: Is this the same incline that served Albright & Wilson's Marchon plant? While trying to find out more info on the Howgill Incline I found a section of one of Gordon Edgars books that says that traffic to the Marchon plant initially used the Howgill Incline, as the Corkickle Brake had been abandoned, but it became so congested that they reinstated the Corkickle in 1955 and used that until 1986. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 20 hours ago, figworthy said: What is happening by that bridge across the incline ? is it a pair of runaway wagons, or is one being loaded there ? Adrian It does look like an accident as there is a catch point at that section. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respite Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 20 hours ago, figworthy said: What is happening by that bridge across the incline ? is it a pair of runaway wagons, or is one being loaded there ? Adrian It is in fact a tunnel not a bridge and yes that's a pair of wagons that have had an accident. One of the austerity locos at Haig Colliery, 'Weasel' ran away over the top of the incline and ended up in a similar position, it did work again. This is the Howgill Brake ( Incline) the other one, in use until 1984, was the Corkickle Brake (Incline) which was latterly used by Marchon Products. It was originally built to serve Croft and then Ladysmith Colliery and Coke ovens. The Howgill Brake in the photos was a replacement for an earlier Brake that was built to take cauldron wagons down to the harbour. This earlier incline is still visible(so far as I know) from the Harbour. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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