enginelane Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Springfield Underground HO US 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 On 22/10/2019 at 12:31, enginelane said: I cannot think of another place that has three model railway exhibitions in the same city in a year. Grenade under the table........... Does Pontefract count as a fourth? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Scott Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 hours ago, doilum said: Grenade under the table........... Does Pontefract count as a fourth? No, maybe when it was at Normanton it would be closer to qualifying but on that you could include Mirfield show, it’s got a WF postcode. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Hyde’s Lane O gauge replacing the withdrawn Prime Cereals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Titheridge Junction N gauge. Image by Pauline McKenna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 On 07/10/2019 at 15:36, D9020 Nimbus said: For one of the larger exhibitions, there's little variety here leaving several parts of the hobby unrepresented or under-represented: only one N gauge layout, no narrow gauge at all, no continental European layout... It's a vastly better form of "imbalance" than will be found at another of the larger shows this autumn, supposedly a general show rather than a modern image event, but which I consider to be awash with N gauge layouts, diesel depots, factory-yard shunting planks, and largely RTR BR 50s/early60s themes, while being (save for one layout) almost totally deficient in any representation of railways before 1950..... By comparison with that, I'm greatly looking forward to the variety at Wakefield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 14 hours ago, gr.king said: It's a vastly better form of "imbalance" than will be found at another of the larger shows this autumn, supposedly a general show rather than a modern image event, but which I consider to be awash with N gauge layouts, diesel depots, factory-yard shunting planks, and largely RTR BR 50s/early60s themes, while being (save for one layout) almost totally deficient in any representation of railways before 1950..... By comparison with that, I'm greatly looking forward to the variety at Wakefield. Exhibition managers can only book what is available, affordable and of sufficient quality. In forty years of being involved with shows the "N" gauge question is a perennial chestnut. People complain about it's absence or abundance. It simply reflects what people are currently building. The last three or four Wakefield shows have seen a continual improvement in the standard of modelling and the challenge is to find fresh "N" gauge layouts that meet the above criteria. The balance of layouts needs to be addressed over a two or three year cycle rather than a single show. I am looking forward to seeing this year's offering. On 30/10/2019 at 11:43, enginelane said: Hyde’s Lane O gauge replacing the withdrawn Prime Cereals 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted November 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 1, 2019 I wouldn't want the task of booking layouts for a show for all the tea in China. No matter what you do, those who don't see enough that matches their interests will complain. My interests don't include N gauge and Continental railways. Previous Wakefield shows have been rather over represented in the USA and Continental departments for my personal tastes. But I accept that others do like them and I don't whinge about it. We all have the choice of looking at the layouts attending, along with the traders, then we can decide whether we want to go or not. I will be there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 2 hours ago, t-b-g said: I wouldn't want the task of booking layouts for a show for all the tea in China. No matter what you do, those who don't see enough that matches their interests will complain. My interests don't include N gauge and Continental railways. Previous Wakefield shows have been rather over represented in the USA and Continental departments for my personal tastes. Good modelling is good modelling, as they say. There is definitely less interest in booking non-UK layouts due to British RTR standards slowly catching up with the better Continental and US mechanisms, even if they are still behind in other areas. 2 hours ago, t-b-g said: We all have the choice of looking at the layouts attending, along with the traders, then we can decide whether we want to go or not. If you have an interest outside of the UK then frankly I find it a lottery, especially when a show will advertise booked layouts with only their name and gauge mentioned. Wakey surpasses in this respect as the descriptions are enough to tell me the era which then confirms whether I recognise it or if it's searchable on YouTube or google, etc. Accompanying photos would be better though, if possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 updated list in first post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 updated trader list from our website Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Thanks to Dolium. As exhibition manager you plan as best you can and circumstances change with layout owners that require flexibity and recognises availability of layouts. At Spalding this weekend have good leads on 5 N gauge layouts and 1 foreign based layout. However 2 weeks ago told that present venue is not available in 2021 and 2022 so size, shape etc of those shows not known as do not know at present where the show will be. Over a period of years Layout balance evens out but what we want to put on is always a good show and I for one will not compromise that over have not got one of these or one of that particular scale etc. If that is a failing within me so be it. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 37 minutes ago, enginelane said: Thanks to Dolium. As exhibition manager you plan as best you can and circumstances change with layout owners that require flexibity and recognises availability of layouts. At Spalding this weekend have good leads on 5 N gauge layouts and 1 foreign based layout. However 2 weeks ago told that present venue is not available in 2021 and 2022 so size, shape etc of those shows not known as do not know at present where the show will be. Over a period of years Layout balance evens out but what we want to put on is always a good show and I for one will not compromise that over have not got one of these or one of that particular scale etc. If that is a failing within me so be it. Sorry to hear about the venue issues. Any change of venue / date can take several shows to recover from. At least you are planning for the next but one event. Hopefully your visiting public will be understanding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted November 3, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2019 Well, wherever the show ends up in 2021 and 2022, this reasonably local resident will certainly make the effort to attend. The show is always a ‘must go to’ in my calendar. Good luck in finding a suitable sized alternative venue Enginelane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 27 minutes ago, doilum said: Sorry to hear about the venue issues. Any change of venue / date can take several shows to recover from. At least you are planning for the next but one event. Hopefully your visiting public will be understanding. Lost over 500 visitors the year Warley dates changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Getting closer. PATtesting complete apart from the Tea urns. Hotel, refreshments booked, car park sorted. There will be no road signs this year as cannot attach to lamp posts etc. There will be a big banner on the railings of the Sports Centre and hopefully the biblical flood has been and gone. Anyone walking or catching the bus see previous posts on this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Being a modeller of American HO, i always like to support Wakefield exhibition when I can (it's the pies you know),if it wasn't for the likes of Wakefield and a few other show us American modellers won't get a look in, were not to everyone's taste, though judging by my last time I exhibited there,there was a lot of interest, even from the non believers. Hope you get somewhere sorted 2021,i can feel a thirst coming on. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Thanks, always welcome and the Pie Shop misses your visits! There will be a show but at the moment it is the size as well as the location. A site close by used to do let’s but now it’s not Trust policy to let the buildings so the search will continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 We have secured the use of the car park in what is the former Wakefield College Thornes Park site. It is now used by the Pennywise Charity. This gives an additional 300 car park spaces. It is approx 300 metres to the Sports Centre. There is limited disabled car park spaces at the centre park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Hot and cold refreshments are available. Nearest cash points are at Morrison’s approx 500 metres away or Asda Express approx 400 metres away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 On 03/11/2019 at 21:44, enginelane said: Lost over 500 visitors the year Warley dates changed. Warley never seem to care who they affect when/if they change their dates. I'd far rather attend still large shows like Wakefield where you still get a large range of layouts and trade than the massive scrum of the aforementioned show. Just because they are biggest doesn't make them best. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Thornes Park Sports Centre set in beautiful parkland. Why not combine a visit to the show with a walk in the park? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted November 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2019 On 03/11/2019 at 20:33, enginelane said: Thanks to Dolium. As exhibition manager you plan as best you can and circumstances change with layout owners that require flexibity and recognises availability of layouts. At Spalding this weekend have good leads on 5 N gauge layouts and 1 foreign based layout. However 2 weeks ago told that present venue is not available in 2021 and 2022 so size, shape etc of those shows not known as do not know at present where the show will be. Over a period of years Layout balance evens out but what we want to put on is always a good show and I for one will not compromise that over have not got one of these or one of that particular scale etc. If that is a failing within me so be it. Good luck with finding another venue. I am sure you will. despite the long journey for us, we have enjoyed showing our layouts at the show a couple of times as food and hospitality has always been good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted November 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2019 On 03/11/2019 at 20:33, enginelane said: Thanks to Dolium. As exhibition manager you plan as best you can and circumstances change with layout owners that require flexibity and recognises availability of layouts. At Spalding this weekend have good leads on 5 N gauge layouts and 1 foreign based layout. However 2 weeks ago told that present venue is not available in 2021 and 2022 so size, shape etc of those shows not known as do not know at present where the show will be. Over a period of years Layout balance evens out but what we want to put on is always a good show and I for one will not compromise that over have not got one of these or one of that particular scale etc. If that is a failing within me so be it. At least they have given you decent advance warning for 2021 and 2022. There have been some instances recently where clubs only got a few months notice. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted November 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) On 10/11/2019 at 11:54, Allegheny1600 said: Warley never seem to care who they affect when/if they change their dates. I'd far rather attend still large shows like Wakefield where you still get a large range of layouts and trade than the massive scrum of the aforementioned show. Just because they are biggest doesn't make them best. There were long discussions between Warley Club and Wakefield Club about the enforced (by the NEC) change of dates. It was NOT dumped on Wakefield by Warley. Good luck finding a new locationspellung. You may lose your Friday opening though as potential school venues are only available for hire on a thursday/Friday in non term time. But a changes of venue has its positives. A square Hall helps laying out exhibits and ...even more importantly allows for better aisle widths and thoroughfares. Hope you can sort the venue out asap as forward planning is a big part of layout invites Baz Edited November 11, 2019 by Barry O spellung Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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