RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted May 13, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Northmoor said: I'm just about to get to this stage with my own creation, also the first time doing ballasting (bites knuckles). If I can get mine to look as good as this, I'll be happy. Your to kind! I’ll be doing more to it yet to get it presentable. Mike Buick Oak Road, Rob of of Sheep Chronicles here and WT are the modellers you’re ought to be looking at! over there he described his method. (You have to be a member to see pics normal size). Robs method on Western Thunder . Cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted May 23, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) Another not much occurring post but a record of glacial progress. Drilling the dowels to accept the piano wire. I forgot one of all the dowels in and micro switches mounted and wired. on to the control panel all the timber I had light and thin enough. Need to revisit the taped lines at some stage not the best but in view of cracking on it will do for now. matt varnish aerosol to tie the tape to the surface. Here I woke up to a clanger I had made. I envisaged 1 if not 2 traverser’s either side of the layout but totally overlooked the space I had! Crazy I know but blinkers on. So I made the control panel to fit as below. Over hanging the end of the layout in front the future traverser! once the penny dropped lying awake one night! It will have to go here as below and wires adjusted accordingly. below the space I have quite a bit there that needs a tidy! But there is 55cms both sides of the layout so a couple of fiddle yards will be going in now to make a U shape. More proper progress soon. Cheers Edited May 23, 2020 by AdeMoore PT 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted May 27, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2020 So a mile stone at last was reached today, finished wiring yesterday had a couple of faults to sort. Terminal screw clamped on the insulation! So that was done then it was track cleaning and more track cleaning and then had to wheel clean so went over the rails with a clean rag. I got an engine or two running. Below the control panel relocation. Next I think I’ll tackle the platform only one unfortunately. Fiddle yards do need doing but a bit of scenery will be a welcome break. The track and ballast does need more work but it’s good enough for now. Cheers 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted May 27, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2020 Trying to get the slow running ability as good as I can. Files and track rubbber. Couldn’t resist running an up West Country not enough room but gave it a go. You’ll have a smile at this below! All the locos need weathering etc. Slash renumbering and naming. But feel like I’m getting somewhere now. until next time. Cheers 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted May 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2020 That's looking great Ade, it's a really good feeling to get stuff running. Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted May 27, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2020 Cheers Al, getting to the bits I’d sooner do so may get some scenics done soon. Cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted June 6, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) Started on the platform, Here’s a couple of photos of my subject. Lower one I was lucky to find as with others I realised the handrail posts were not part of the trestle casting but separate. Link to my reference photos. https://photos.app.goo.gl/KbtE3gNxW7tEJM8J8 Struck on using self adhesive mini trunking to set up the trestles. My drawing based on info kindly sent to me by @MikeTrice from Southern Nouveau (first edition). But I found the drawings not compliant to Meldon as the platform Coping slabs were 4” long and the whole thing close on 60ft long after drawing out I realised this couldn’t be the case it was much shorter, then I realised the coping slabs were shorter than they were wide. The handrail posts should be about 3’10” high arcing those I came to a guesstimate the slabs were 2ft x 3ft wide. Below the slope sketched out in pencil on the trestles ready for reducing in height. Thanks for looking in. Until next time Cheers Edited June 6, 2020 by AdeMoore Word insert 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted June 6, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 6, 2020 Started on the platform, Here’s a couple of photos of my subject. Lower one I was lucky to find as with others I realised the handrail posts were not part of the trestle casting but separate. Link to my reference photos. https://photos.app.goo.gl/KbtE3gNxW7tEJM8J8 Struck on using self adhesive mini trunking to set up the trestles. My drawing based on info sent to me by @MikeTrice from Southern Nouveau (first edition). But I found the drawings not compliant to Meldon as the platform Coping slabs were 4” long and the whole thing close on 60ft long after drawing out I realised this couldn’t be the case it was much shorter, then I realised the coping slabs were shorter than they were wide. The handrail posts should be about 3’10” high arcing those I came to a guesstimate the slabs were 2ft x 3ft wide. Below the slope sketched out in pencil on the trestles ready for reducing in height. Thanks for looking in. Until next time Cheers 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted June 6, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 6, 2020 More, trestles reduced in height to suit the platform slope. Easily cut with snips and filed up. Casting lines before and after being filed up. next as you can see although the mini trunking is a good at sticking but not enough to hold upright so added some white tack along the back to keep in position. Next up scribed some plasticard for the platform slabs. not perfect but will make the next two better. But from 2ft away will look fine. That’ was it for today. Thanks for looking in. Cheers Ade 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted June 11, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 11, 2020 Hand rail posts, can’t make my mind up according to Southern nouveau kindly sent to me by @MikeTrice the posts were 5 inches 1.67mm wide in the phot below the plastic is 1.5mm and the coffee stirrers 1mm wide. What do you guys think? I’m thinking 1.5mm looks to wide for some reason. Location shots included for ref. Cheers Ade 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted November 16, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2020 Done a fair bit since June time for a catch for a catch up. More done the home made fence post stuck on. Ah bit of a problem! Some how I couldn’t count on the clear photos I have how many slabs there were on the top level. I had one to many! posts marked and drilled all stuck on. So next SMS supplied glue the deluxe-materials-ad-21-super-phatic-glue. That stuck the posts to the white metal. So the handrail next made from telecom wire superglued. The fence wire wanted to be thinner really but even with a magnifying viewer that’s pretty well the smallest I can see. Obviously close up camera makes it look much bigger This below was my way of straining the fence wires before supergluing. Hair grips surprisingly grippy on those wires with a little weight on. The handrail ends dresssed and the viaduct end was prototypically bent down. Looked ok so a mist coat of rattle can primer thrown on! One can wouldn’t press the inner tube inside the nozzle far enough before it hit the can! It would deliver and I pulled the nozzle off and pressed it against some wood so a faulty nozzle it appears, 2nd can was out in the shed so warmed that up under hot water as I’d read somewhere that worked lovely. A few runs! Anyway getting closer to move on to bigger things for this layout now. This will soon be done and I’m fairly pleased with it next time I’ll buy the bits rather than make them as all those posts were hand made from sheet yes including all the ones I didn’t need! I made one for every trestle, course I only needed every other one. Clean this up and paint it weather it and done I feel. It won’t go on the layout yet as big building work needs doing at the back vaguely where this workers platform is going. Thanks for looking in. Until next time. Cheers Ade 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted November 16, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2020 I’ve been thinking about the fiddle yards to Meldon. I’ve decided I’m going to do them scenic, which then led me to thinking the final objective is a roundy roundy around my small Railway Room. So why not keep going and get the boards made and erected. First up I bought some DCC concepts base board dowels and on inspection they are the Don! The old TTTE board was beefed up and new timber added, but it’s been in storage for nigh on 20 years and kept straight so should be fine. Joint clamped up ready for a 3mm pilot hole x 2 needing to be both level and square. Two drills follow a 19mm for the flange and a 13mm for the body. DDC concepts instructions say PVA them in, mine were such a snug fit in they went no PVA. Don’t judge the carpentry! Not pretty but it’s there! There we have it, need to work out a solution to make a catch in the corner. Must be plenty of layouts with that, just not noticed them. So thoughts turn to the track plan and further baseboards. There potentially will be a viaduct Meldon or Barnstaple that’s the question and is it possible in my space. Until next time. Cheers Ade 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted November 16, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2020 Time to test some ideas! There was always going to be hidden tracks under the rock face at the back of the layout. Then the transition to the next board as it was no longer a fiddle yard if I could help it. I’ve come up with an idea of a tunnel mouth in N gauge looking straight off the Meldon Board South end, the photo I have used is of Trelill tunnel the only tunnel on the North Cornwall Railway so fitting to put there. The running line will slip off left in the photo below under a girder bridge. Above and below this will be N gauge track and I’ll have to widen it as it comes back to meet the 00 gauge track. I’ve ordered a N tunnel mouth not sure if it will go where my photo is or where the loco is the track in the hidden hillside would be painted black to hide it I gues it’s only a photo prop really but I can see it will work? Above 2 photos is mocking up how the lift off hillside/quarry face will be. Below is where I’m stuck a track plan to get the siding from the main line back into more quarry sidings. Ideally to get more to the front not as far as the shark van in the photo below but a line inside that, Y points look nice but could do with ideas. The narrow gauge up on a higher level I’m still hoping to include and it could drop on top the hidden tracks and from above the N gauge tunnel then swing across the main line! Then on an embankment above the sidings. Above is an idea where the next board will go where the stool is and at 90 degrees to last board. Not a massive space this, I’m hoping will be the viaduct board. So the hidden lines before the end of the current board will exit a tunnel and either both head across a viaduct after turning on to the next board or just one of them and a point before the end of the current empty board t9 bring 2 to 1 line. I’ll post up over in help for some ideas, I’ve nothing bar this v basic paint app. On my iPad. But this is what I’m toying with. The main line has got a narrow gauge (brown line) over bridge (pink) and then a kick back on the sidings another. Then a loading dock inspired by the photo lower down. Taken from Burton Latimer - Local Industry: Ironstone Mining https://www.burtonlatimer.info/industry/ironstone-mining.html Is it possible though more playing about tomorrow. Ideas anyone feel free to chip in. Until next time Cheers 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted November 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2020 Like the idea of the forced perspective in the tunnel. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted November 21, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) Thanks John, seems Therefore it could be ok. Having laid some templates down I don’t think my above idea fits the space. I have been trying to find something that some else has made work or an experienced designer put mouse to screen! Found a helpful website http://www.amherstrail.org/ABEL/Downloads/Shelf-Layouts.pdf some handy ideas there I actually remember Chewton Mendip & West Harptree in RM. Hook Basin looks useful. Anyway another attempt, the narrow gauge could run on the top of the twin hidden tracks at the back and be a loading dock to the standard gauge closest track indicated below in black, the other sidings are just less complicated. I found the below trawling thread after thread! By @Nearholmer here https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/106054-planning-a-micro-shunting-layout-4mm/&do=findComment&comment=2133891 think I like the feel of that, so I’ll see if something along those lines fits. But I also realise now the next board although at 90 degrees will provide more space as the viaduct line will be at the rear of it. More to deliberate. Cheers Ade Edited November 21, 2020 by AdeMoore Photo placement 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Keith Addenbrooke Posted November 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2020 Hi Ade, could I ask a question about the trestles that appear in a photo above? They've been recommended for a portable layout project I've been planning, but the final baseboard profile I ended up with is quite narrow and all the trestles I've seen are wider. I'm afraid I'd be constantly bashing them (damaging either myself or the layout). Is it a problem you've found? You may of course be less clumsy than I am. Hope it's OK to ask, Keith. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted November 23, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2020 No problem Keith, I’m far from swamped with comments! So my pleasure. The trestles are too wide and I find them a pain and do bang my knees on them! I may try and narrow some, they were only a fiver each from Homebase. But along the walls I’m toying with going with twin slot shelving as https://www.bigdug.co.uk/shelving-c4505/wall-shelving-c5021/twinslot-light-duty-custom-build-wall-mounted-shelving-system-white-p19390/s40704?cid=GBP&vs_vat=inc&utm_campaign=CSS:Shopping:All_Products&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=CjwKCAiA2O39BRBjEiwApB2IkiLnsAXxikwHJL5Zm6uQQyAxRStkB9aH_Hl7r5MQYLdItj2Zavad9hoCQo0QAvD_BwE I have a couple lengths in stock. I’ve seen it work well. I know @NHY 581Rob and a few others use the metal adjustable ones from Screwfix I think it was. Still wide but uses them much higher. Hope that helps. Cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted November 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) Why not make your own, possibly out of scrap pallet slats if money is an issue? I did these with plywood about 30 years ago and they are still going strong; being home made they have the advantage that as I used splittable hinges* they can be side or top hung therefore dual purpose - bog-standard A frames (Pin the top set) or with the side hinges pinned becoming L shaped desk leg style as here. I used a rope tie across to a screw on the other cross-beam when in A mode and they therefore have options for height adjustment/sloping floors and the like. I did use them for several years as A frames under a former layout and they are currently mostly used to form display tables with the SLS promo stand (This was trial set up of the stand layout pre-LFORM in 2018). *a later retro-fit to the original A frame idea. Edited November 6, 2022 by john new Photo(s) found and replaced post crash. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted December 19, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 19, 2020 Missed your reply @john new sorry about that. thinking along those line Damion on this thread had a similar idea think he also did it with all ply like yours on another project. Thanks for the reply. Cheers Ade. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) Apart from the main line, the layout looks like the end of the Southern branch to Victoria Wharves in Plymouth where it ended conveniently in a warehouse used as the shed for the on site diesel shunter. Brian Edited December 20, 2020 by brianusa 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted December 20, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 hours ago, brianusa said: Apart from the main line, the layout looks like the end of the Southern branch to Victoria Wharves in Plymouth where it ended conveniently in a warehouse used as the shed for the on site diesel shunter. Brian @brianusatrying to find a photo of where you mean! As I’m not familiar with it. I know I have something in a book in my small collection without trawling those books I found this http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/cattewater-branch1.html not what you mean though I’m sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 @brianusatrying to find a photo of where you mean! As I’m not familiar with it. I know I have something in a book in my small collection without trawling those books I found this http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/cattewater-branch1.html not what you mean though I’m sure. Thats the area I was referring to as with a little bit of licence the track plan was similar. Or at least I thought so! Brian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted July 4, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) Last time I posted anything of the board on this, I hesitate to call it a layout! Was this image below 3rd May 2020! Been up to other stuff, nothing in any way finished and it’s bothering me now! I’ve been faffing with this and that but really getting nowhere fast. Modelling time I always thought was at a premium and sometimes it is, but you can make time if you’re inclined! I’ve just made a few purchases that I hope will get this project up and running again. I still need to make the right hand board for trains to enter and leave. I struggle in what to prioritise next. I think I need to get some trains running maybe. The platform build went pear shaped, I masking taped the wires as one between each post sprayed the concrete colours on, left the masking tape on too long and snapped the wires on the last post getting it off! Not sure off the solution as they were all super glued in the holes of every post, short of starting again. I guess this post is just to get a clearer idea of a plan to get this done! Writing down the options I think will help. 1) I could do the engine shed and workshop next but not sure. 2) Could do the rear rock face and ledge with narrow gauge on it then generally build up the scenery. 3) Make the right hand board. Left one is done. Also I have a nagging doubt that I didn’t model both the up and the down lines. Just the up! would like to ignore that and press on! I think item 3 is the way forward but whether I can encourage myself to do that is another matter! Until next time. Cheers Edited July 4, 2021 by AdeMoore Memory loss of what I actually did! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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