Evening Star naming ceremony

[Shooting Star]

Hi all,

 

I'm currently undertaking some academic research which focuses, in part, on the development of British Railways in the 1950s and 1960s. As part of that research, I've been trying to track down a full transcript of the speech given by R.F. Hanks at the formal unveiling of No. 92220 "Evening Star" in March 1960.

 

So far I have found this one: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1243/jile_proc_1959_049_048_02?journalCode=jila

but much of it appears to be locked behind a paywall. Does anybody know of an alternative source?

Best,

Sam

[Coach bogie]

I do not know if it was the full speech but It appeared on a BBC record.

 

http://bbcrecords.co.uk/record.php?record=30&i=1

 

Track 1 side 1.

 

It pops up on eBay every now and then

 

 

Mike Wiltshire

[Mallard60022]

You could also try BBC TV News Archive on line? I haven't.

Edited October 7, 2019 by Mallard60022

[keefer]

Would seem to be available on Amazon Music: https://www.discogs.com/composition/1d182b60-e37a-409d-9bc6-3bb64a04f1d8-Naming-Ceremony-Of-The-Steam-Last-Locomotive-To-Be-Built-For-British-Railways-The-Evening-Star-At-Swindon

[Nearholmer]

I’m sure I’ve read the entire text in either an IMechE or ILocE report that I stumbled upon on-line while looking for something else ....... keep searching; its on-line somewhere!

 

If all else fails, try the IMechE library, where the original proceedings of ILocE came to rest. If you are a registered student or member of any engineering institution, they will help for free.

Edited October 7, 2019 by Nearholmer

[Andy Kirkham]

A slight digression from the strict topic of this thread, but Mike Morant has just posted a remarkable picture of 92220, probably in March 1965 and, by the look of it at the very end of its BR career - seemingly just another 9F.

 

Edited October 7, 2019 by Andy Kirkham

[Pandora]

From the state of the locomotive, I can understand why BR  lost interest in the preservation of Evening Star

[Pandora]

On 07/10/2019 at 10:48, Shooting Star said:

Hi all,

 

I'm currently undertaking some academic research which focuses, in part, on the development of British Railways in the 1950s and 1960s. As part of that research, I've been trying to track down a full transcript of the speech given by R.F. Hanks at the formal unveiling of No. 92220 "Evening Star" in March 1960.

 

So far I have found this one: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1243/jile_proc_1959_049_048_02?journalCode=jila

but much of it appears to be locked behind a paywall. Does anybody know of an alternative source?

Best,

Sam

Try this for the speech:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BR_Standard_Class_9F_92220_Evening_Star

[Steamport Southport]

2 hours ago, Pandora said:

From the state of the locomotive, I can understand why BR  lost interest in the preservation of Evening Star

 

Wasn't that because it was damaged at Cardiff and was deemed a scrapper due to twisted frames?

 

You can see the damage here.

 

https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com/92220-evening-star/

 

 

Jason

[Pandora]

2 hours ago, Steamport Southport said:

 

Wasn't that because it was damaged at Cardiff and was deemed a scrapper due to twisted frames?

 

You can see the damage here.

 

https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com/92220-evening-star/

 

 

Jason

I recall reading an account of Evening star,  BR lost interest, an individual tried to buy the locomotive for private preservation, a few false starts later  the individual dropped out,  the locomotive was renovated at Crewe Works, the Works manager authorised the renovation without the permission of BR HQ.

As for the damage to 92220,  as a regular visitor to NRM,  I have looked for the evidence ahead of the cylinders and the frames, I cannot see any signs of the accident repair,  if all that was damaged was the buffer beam and the running plate which should be an easy repair for shed fitter or blacksmith

Edited October 9, 2019 by Pandora

[John M Upton]

There has been that long held rumour that the current Evening Star is a different 9F's frames with the original boiler etc swapped over during that accident damage rebuild.

[MarkC]

14 minutes ago, John M Upton said:

There has been that long held rumour that the current Evening Star is a different 9F's frames with the original boiler etc swapped over during that accident damage rebuild.

There has indeed, but hasn't it been debunked? Perhaps Sir Haydn of this parish can confirm?

 

Mark

Edited October 9, 2019 by MarkC

[Mallard60022]

29 minutes ago, John M Upton said:

There has been that long held rumour that the current Evening Star is a different 9F's frames with the original boiler etc swapped over during that accident damage rebuild.

There was the 'other' rumour that it was/is just another 9F......I thought parts were stamped so thus must be urban myth?

[slilley]

This might be of some help

 

[keefer]

That's what appears in the OP's link, but it would seem that it's not the complete speech.