Otis JB Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 On 13/10/2020 at 17:59, rovex said: I suppose better that than being called "Queen Mary II" Or indeed 'Titanic II' 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnylinny Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 As a question to those at Hattons: Regarding the lighted versions of these carriages: Will they have a smoothing capacitor/"stay alive" built in? It would be lovely on analogue control to be able to stop a train in a station without the lights going out! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted October 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, Skinnylinny said: Regarding the lighted versions of these carriages: Will they have a smoothing capacitor/"stay alive" built in? I understand the models will be DC/DCC compatible and there will be capacitors to reduce/minimise flicker, no mention of a stay alive. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold greatcoleswoodhalt Posted October 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) Well worth sharing @PMP's recent 'Transformation Tuesday, Genesis' post for an overview of the current state of development: - https://albionyard.wordpress.com/2020/10/27/transformation-tuesday-genesis/ Edited October 30, 2020 by jafcreasey 7 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 On 29/09/2020 at 23:52, jcm@gwr said: You only really need that with coaches that have corridors to connect, which none of these do. In relation to corridors and longer coaches they are absolutely required, but also for short 4- and 6-wheel coaches and wagons an articulated coupling mechanism allows close coupling on straight track: Best, Mark 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2020 When are these likely to become available? Hattons are doing a very thorough job to get a really good quality product (ok I know it's generic) it makes me wonder if anybody else might step in with a quickie, much less carefully developed, model to get to market first? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 42 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: When are these likely to become available? Hattons are doing a very thorough job to get a really good quality product (ok I know it's generic) it makes me wonder if anybody else might step in with a quickie, much less carefully developed, model to get to market first? It's either Q1 or Q2, the project page on their website will give the details for projected delivery times ofr each planned batch. The only chance of someone else bringing a similar project to market would be a range of coaches from a specific company but even then that's slim (OK maybe more chance of Dapol with a downsized set of LBSC coaches following their o gauge ones) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 19:03, Guardian said: but also for short 4- and 6-wheel coaches and wagons an articulated coupling mechanism allows close coupling on straight track: One of those "nice to have" features, but a price-hiker. I'd stick with what Hattons are offering at present, especially when compared with the old Hornby 4-wheelers! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, The Stationmaster said: When are these likely to become available? Hattons are doing a very thorough job to get a really good quality product (ok I know it's generic) it makes me wonder if anybody else might step in with a quickie, much less carefully developed, model to get to market first? Not unless they have a Tardis. It takes years to develop a new range of stock, even a quickie would take a couple of years. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free At Last Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, The Stationmaster said: When are these likely to become available? Hattons are doing a very thorough job to get a really good quality product (ok I know it's generic) it makes me wonder if anybody else might step in with a quickie, much less carefully developed, model to get to market first? What have you heard? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: Not unless they have a Tardis. It takes years to develop a new range of stock, even a quickie would take a couple of years. Unless of course they started at the same time, seizing on Hattons' idea with an aim to come to market earlier. It's not like its not been done before albeit for different reasons. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph the L&YR lover Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, woodenhead said: Unless of course they started at the same time, seizing on Hattons' idea with an aim to come to market earlier. It's not like its not been done before albeit for different reasons. seems like if anyone was doing that they would announce it by now 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted November 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2020 KR Models???? Only joking 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Or on or around Jan 4th 2021. Personally I'd think it would be a brave move to try and gazump but one thing with coaches is that we tend to buy multiples, more so than a loco so maybe there is room. But in the absence of any evidence of such a move it is pure unadulterated speculation. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted November 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, woodenhead said: But in the absence of any evidence of such a move it is pure unadulterated speculation This is RMweb, so nothing unusual there lol 3 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2020 If your modelling independent railways, Col. Stevens for example or even post grouping a mixture of styles would be better than one common style as in these coaches. If another manufacturer produced a similar but not the same as line they could well compliment each other. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted November 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: When are these likely to become available? Hattons are doing a very thorough job to get a really good quality product (ok I know it's generic) it makes me wonder if anybody else might step in with a quickie, much less carefully developed, model to get to market first? If "anybody else" did have a spoiler in mind (and the presence of the word "quickie" automatically rules out one candidate ) they'd have to decide whether to compete on specification or price. From what we've seen so far, I doubt there's any money to be made from trying to do both if "anybody else" has to distribute through a retailer network. Hatton's exclusivity makes that margin their own, hence the ability to offer the combination of decent specification and low price we are expecting. That said, as we have seen elsewhere, "anybody else's" motivation wouldn't necessarily be monetary... Of course, "anybody else" could go for a prototypical range, but that would be a massive undertaking unless they restricted themselves to a single pre-1923 company and its grouped successor, with the inevitable narrowing of appeal that involves. That's the very reason Hatton's decided to go generic in the first place. Personally, I'd consider "anybody else" would be on a hiding to nothing, both financially and in PR terms. Such a move certainly wouldn't get me cancelling any of my pre-orders. John Edited November 23, 2020 by Dunsignalling 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 hours ago, PhilJ W said: Not unless they have a Tardis. It takes years to develop a new range of stock, even a quickie would take a couple of years. In which case the Hattons carriages are genuine quickies. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Compound2632 said: In which case the Hattons carriages are genuine quickies. Agreed, but what makes them 'quickies' is that they are generic. A lot of effort has gone into getting the basics right including on this thread where feedback has been taken notice of. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Oldddudders Posted November 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: Agreed, but what makes them 'quickies' is that they are generic. A lot of effort has gone into getting the basics right including on this thread where feedback has been taken notice of. And by so doing Hattons have ensured a lot of buy-in, much of which will translate into real purchases from the less-anal among us. We see these providing affordable pre-Grouping atmosphere. Those who strive for utter authenticity may, of course, find that elements of a particular prototype are visible in a Hattons model, and be able to cut-and-shut to good advantage. Everyone wins here. 3 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted November 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2020 Brings a new meaning to the question “Got time for a quickie?” 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 15 hours ago, Northroader said: Brings a new meaning to the question “Got time for a quickie?” Only if you get off before Edge Hill.... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted November 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 14/10/2020 at 21:36, johnofwessex said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TS_Queen_Mary You mean this one, generally regarded as the finest excursion steamer to run in the UK? Here seen retired from active service 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted November 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 23/11/2020 at 20:10, Northroader said: Brings a new meaning to the question “Got time for a quickie?” Remind me......? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
90rob Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 This just turned up on a FB local interest page, from a postcard dated 1908. Presumably LSWR? 14 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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