RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted February 25, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2021 27 minutes ago, Jol Wilkinson said: It just depends on what you want to believe. From the interweb. "The Oxford English Dictionary lists “rooves” as an alternate to roofs, one of several outdated spellings used in the UK, and in New England as late as the 19th century. It's not stated which source Google Dictionary used but they list both roofs and rooves as correct." No doubt the OED as an historical dictionary does give rooves as an old form of the plural but I'm sure it lists it as an alternative not an alternate. Why is mains electricity like a dried fruit? Because it's an alternative currant. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilwell Park Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 On 23/02/2021 at 23:32, Michael Hodgson said: Trouble with that in most liveries is the number's usually on the front as well, so it looks wrong in a three quarters view In the case of a 4F assume some enthusiast has pinched the front number plate. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted February 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2021 If the plural of loaf is loaves, then the plural of roof must be rooves, and the plural of oaf is oaves. OTOH since the plural of sheep is sheep, the plural of roof should be roof. The plural of fish can be fish or fishes, depending on whether they are food or living creatures; not sure what the correct term is if you eat more than one live fish/fishes. Smoke me a scampo, I'll be back for breakfast... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted February 25, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2021 But the plural of goose is geese, so the plural of groove must be greeve, from which it is straightforward to infer that the plural of roof is reef. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted February 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2021 That makes as much sense as the other stuff; the plural of moose must therefore be meese. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2750Papyrus Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, The Johnster said: If the plural of loaf is loaves, then the plural of roof must be rooves, and the plural of oaf is oaves. OTOH since the plural of sheep is sheep, the plural of roof should be roof. The plural of fish can be fish or fishes, depending on whether they are food or living creatures; not sure what the correct term is if you eat more than one live fish/fishes. Smoke me a scampo, I'll be back for breakfast... I thought the fishy thing depended on the number of species - 2 herrings being fish but 1 and a haddock being fishes....??? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tim Hall Posted February 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, 2750Papyrus said: I thought the fishy thing depended on the number of species - 2 herrings being fish but 1 and a haddock being fishes....??? Let's skate over that, there's a plaice for everything. 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, The Johnster said: If the plural of loaf is loaves, then the plural of roof must be rooves, and the plural of oaf is oaves. OTOH since the plural of sheep is sheep, the plural of roof should be roof. The plural of fish can be fish or fishes, depending on whether they are food or living creatures; not sure what the correct term is if you eat more than one live fish/fishes. Smoke me a scampo, I'll be back for breakfast... The plural of 'fish' is only 'fishes' when the boat comes in. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted February 25, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2021 Oh ye gods and little fishes! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardLong Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 On 23/02/2021 at 10:15, Michael Hodgson said: Yet. Give it a few years. They will have run of options once they done them in every crest from IoW Central to Garstang & Knott End and Harry Potter. I’m crossing my fingers for IOW Central! (Surely only a matter of time before someone does a Terrier in that livery...) 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 25, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2021 Time for this? 1 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: Time for this? Several of them! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, RichardLong said: I’m crossing my fingers for IOW Central! (Surely only a matter of time before someone does a Terrier in that livery...) Yes please, the red liveried one with Isle of Wight Central Railway and the black just with the IWC initials. Then we need the Freshwater, Yarmouth and Newport one in LSWR green. Did either of them buy coaches similar to these ? Definitely sounds good to me. All the best Ray Edited February 25, 2021 by wainwright1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) I know the FYN had two sets of stock, one Vacuum fitted and one Air fitted, as per their two locos. I seem to recall someone telling me to Vacuum set was ex-Manchester, Sheffield & Lincoln. Edited February 26, 2021 by sem34090 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
friscopete Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 21 hours ago, The Johnster said: since the plural of sheep is sheep, Shurley its sheepses 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 19 hours ago, Edwardian said: The plural of 'fish' is only 'fishes' when the boat comes in. I must apologise. I realise that my allusion was in error. When the boat comes in, one does not get "fishes", but a "fishy" That's "fishy", as in "sturgeon" 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardLong Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, sem34090 said: I know the FYN had two sets of stock, one Vacuum fitted and one Air fitted, as per their two locos. I seem to recall someone telling me to Vacuum set was ex-Manchester, Sheffield & Lincoln. Pretty sure I’ve read that - based on the photographic evidence - they didn’t always have the right loco matched up with the right coaches! Incidentally, the FYN’s Terrier was a bit of an oddity as it had a Drummond boiler (fitted when it was owned by the LSWR). I’m not sure either Hornby or Rails would have the tooling to accurately represent that? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted February 26, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, friscopete said: Shurley its sheepses Don’t call me Shurley. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 38 minutes ago, RichardLong said: Pretty sure I’ve read that - based on the photographic evidence - they didn’t always have the right loco matched up with the right coaches! Incidentally, the FYN’s Terrier was a bit of an oddity as it had a Drummond boiler (fitted when it was owned by the LSWR). I’m not sure either Hornby or Rails would have the tooling to accurately represent that? It was one of a pair that had been used unsuccessfully on the Axminster to Lyme Regis branch and they had been fitted with a mechanical form of push/pull gear which featured cranks etc on the rear of the cab roof, as seen in a picture in one or more of the Terrier books. I believe that the FY&NR one stayed in LSWR livery and just had the lettering changed. All the best Ray 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Edwardian said: I must apologise. I realise that my allusion was in error. When the boat comes in, one does not get "fishes", but a "fishy" That's "fishy", as in "sturgeon" Hoots Mon ! No need to get political. Ray 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Edwardian said: That's "fishy", as in "sturgeon" I never realised Alex Salmond was a railway modeller. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardLong Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, wainwright1 said: It was one of a pair that had been used unsuccessfully on the Axminster to Lyme Regis branch and they had been fitted with a mechanical form of push/pull gear which featured cranks etc on the rear of the cab roof, as seen in a picture in one or more of the Terrier books. I believe that the FY&NR one stayed in LSWR livery and just had the lettering changed. All the best Ray It was originally leased from the LSWR and apparently ran in full LSWR livery - with no changes to number or lettering - for several years. Most sources seem to agree that it was repainted in a new “bright green” livery with black & white lining and FYN lettering circa 1916. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 17 minutes ago, RichardLong said: It was originally leased from the LSWR and apparently ran in full LSWR livery - with no changes to number or lettering - for several years. Most sources seem to agree that it was repainted in a new “bright green” livery with black & white lining and FYN lettering circa 1916. Thanks Richard. I cannot remember if that is the one that Hornby have already done, or was it the other one ? Anyway, more variety for them. All the best Ray 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardLong Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 25 minutes ago, wainwright1 said: Thanks Richard. I cannot remember if that is the one that Hornby have already done, or was it the other one ? Anyway, more variety for them. All the best Ray The FYN one was LSWR no. 734 but the current Hornby one seems to be LSWR no. 735 - but even if it were 734 it doesn’t have a Drummond boiler so would be inaccurate for how it ran on the IOW. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
friscopete Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 hours ago, The Johnster said: Don’t call me Shurley. Well done ,was waiting to see who took the bate. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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