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2 hours ago, JohnR said:

 

Fascinating - I've just doubled checked, and the Hattons BR Crimson livery examples are numbered as per the Balerno coaches. 

These appear to be made to satisfy a ‘Hiraeth’ in our hobby, Hatton’s Genesis coaches are a different generation of carriages from 1920’s carriages, also there’s nothing rtr to pull Balerno coaches.

Hopefully the Batch 3 Caledonian Railway 4 wheel carriages will be done in a more typical CR 4 wheel carriage livery.

 

Brian.

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21 minutes ago, turbos said:

These appear to be made to satisfy a ‘Hiraeth’ in our hobby, Hatton’s Genesis coaches are a different generation of carriages from 1920’s carriages, also there’s nothing rtr to pull Balerno coaches.

Hopefully the Batch 3 Caledonian Railway 4 wheel carriages will be done in a more typical CR 4 wheel carriage livery.

 

Brian.

 

Everything you said is true. But that wont stop me (and others) buying them and running them on Scottish themed layouts....

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17 minutes ago, JohnR said:

 

Everything you said is true. But that wont stop me (and others) buying them and running them on Scottish themed layouts....

They could look good on any pre-Beeching semi-forgotten branch line, I think Hattons numbering and marketing them as stock for a slightly obscure specialist branch line is unwise. 
They should be easy enough to renumber and heavily weather.

Hopefully they’ll sell as well as all the other liveries and help fund the future batches.

 

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2 minutes ago, Philou said:

I think @Edwardian is offering a visual clue - the research was done by Oxford (Rail), not Oxford itself (but perhaps you knew that already - if so, sorry).

 

Quite so. He does not write for such dull elves as  as have not a great deal of ingenuity themselves.

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19 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

 

I'm afraid the rate of survival of 6-wheelers post Great War is a measure of the poverty of the railway company.

Interesting then that Hatton’s are producing the SR  4 and 6 wheel stock in the post 1923 Maunsell olive green livery. I guess they would have done Malacite if they thought folks would buy them. In their defense the formation they show is for an IOW 1930s train which seems accurate enough.

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5 hours ago, Cofga said:

Interesting then that Hatton’s are producing the SR  4 and 6 wheel stock in the post 1923 Maunsell olive green livery. I guess they would have done Malacite if they thought folks would buy them. In their defense the formation they show is for an IOW 1930s train which seems accurate enough.

I believe there were a few rakes of 4/6 wheelers on the SR (mainland) that just scraped into the thirties on hop-pickers duties, excursions etc. The Bluebell have a couple of 6 wheelers with 1935 withdrawal dates.

 

The LCDR 4-wheelers sent over to the IOW mostly lasted until 36/37, with a couple of exceptions that lasted through the war in parcels use. 

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7 hours ago, Nick C said:

I believe there were a few rakes of 4/6 wheelers on the SR (mainland) that just scraped into the thirties on hop-pickers duties, excursions etc. The Bluebell have a couple of 6 wheelers with 1935 withdrawal dates.

 

 

Yes  some of the 4 / 6 wheeled coaches did end their life as 'Hop pickers specials' - however such vehicles only used for a few weeks a year (and by, how shall we put it, the less well off sections of society* for whom this would also be their 'holiday' of sorts) would not have been painted in fully lined out olive! Such stock would have been in scruffy plain / faded Olive by the 1930s rather than the smart representation seen on the Hatton's vehicles. 

 

https://blog.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/2019/05/30/the-hop-pickers-holiday/

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3 hours ago, phil-b259 said:

 

Yes  some of the 4 / 6 wheeled coaches did end their life as 'Hop pickers specials' - however such vehicles only used for a few weeks a year (and by, how shall we put it, the less well off sections of society* for whom this would also be their 'holiday' of sorts) would not have been painted in fully lined out olive! Such stock would have been in scruffy plain / faded Olive by the 1930s rather than the smart representation seen on the Hatton's vehicles. 

 

https://blog.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/2019/05/30/the-hop-pickers-holiday/

That's true - however the IoW stock was certainly painted in fully lined livery - there's plenty of photos. Other stock that was expected to last past around 1926 or so would have been repainted after the grouping as well, and may well have been lined - even if it was later relegated to hop-picking duties etc. 

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Goodness, Edwardian, wonderful photos!  Can you give us years when these photos were taken, please?

 

I'm particularly taken by the three axle coach sitting in Edinburgh Waverley - third photo down - taken some time in the 1920s or 30s, I'd guess. You don't get any clues from the buildings (Forsyth's department store at left, North British Hotel, now Balmoral, to right) because they are still there today!

 

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12 minutes ago, Edwardian said:

I suspect that parishioners will not lack the imagination necessary to come up with reasons to include short coaches on Grouping era layouts.

 

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That's a nice selection. Do we know what the location of the ex-LC & DR camping coaches was ? I know that there was a couple at Amberley.

 

All the best

Ray

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39 minutes ago, wainwright1 said:

 

That's a nice selection. Do we know what the location of the ex-LC & DR camping coaches was ? I know that there was a couple at Amberley.

 

All the best

Ray

 

Don't go to Amberley, 'cos I'm sure I heard something on the radio about you having to quarantine afterwards.

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41 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said:

and there's always the grounded coach body as a chicken shed or whatever.

 

Can't people just build the Ratio kit for that?

 

£6 or £30? It's basically about six main parts that virtually anyone can make. 

 

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https://www.hattons.co.uk/40654/ratio_501ratio_grounded_coach_body_plastic_kit/stockdetail.aspx

 

 

 

Jason

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1 minute ago, gr.king said:

The attempt to contain or mop-up the solvent before it damages anything else can be quite frantic, but it does help to teach you to stand the bottle in a very stable additional container.

Yes, yes - but knowing what to do and actually doing it are quite different things in this world. 

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