Sir TophamHatt Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 What are the three donut O's on the side of a 92 for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 It is the branding for European Passenger Services, it was on the Mk lll generator vans and 37's in the same way as each sector branded their locomotives! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, Sir TophamHatt said: What are the three donut O's on the side of a 92 for? And, following on from Mark above, I believe it was to 'symbolise' looking along the Channel Tunnel i.e. the diminishing diameters of the 'circles' . Brian R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 10, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, br2975 said: And, following on from Mark above, I believe it was to 'symbolise' looking along the Channel Tunnel i.e. the diminishing diameters of the 'circles' . Brian R It was indeed intended to symbolise the connection with the Channel Tunnel hence they were originally intended to be on the entire Class 92 fleet as the original intention was that locos could be cross-working between any of the book 'owners' . In the 92s were all diagrammed internally by each 'owner' but some cross working would have been inevitable due to maintenance being based on Crewe for the whole fleet. So basically it was a Channel Tunnel working branding - not an EPS branding as such. In Eurostar they were often irreverently referred to as 'the Morris 8 hubcaps'. (although the resemblance was in reality pretty slight). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold pheaton Posted October 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2019 Im sure ive read somewhere they are extremely difficult to remove which is why they have persisted for so long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2019 5 hours ago, pheaton said: Im sure ive read somewhere they are extremely difficult to remove which is why they have persisted for so long. I was told by a traction engineer that on the 92s they were fixed in such a manner as to avoid offering an easy target for 'souvenir hunters' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bendall Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 8 hours ago, pheaton said: Im sure ive read somewhere they are extremely difficult to remove which is why they have persisted for so long. Its often said they are welded on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, pheaton said: Im sure ive read somewhere they are extremely difficult to remove which is why they have persisted for so long. 3 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: I was told by a traction engineer that on the 92s they were fixed in such a manner as to avoid offering an easy target for 'souvenir hunters' 29 minutes ago, Simon Bendall said: Its often said they are welded on. I thought they were the sprue from when they injection moulded the sides of the locomotives. Edited October 11, 2019 by woodenhead 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir TophamHatt Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 11/10/2019 at 09:17, pheaton said: Im sure ive read somewhere they are extremely difficult to remove which is why they have persisted for so long. Thanks for seeing where I was going with this 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 12:05, Sir TophamHatt said: What are the three donut O's on the side of a 92 for? Art, dear boy, art. At least they don't fall off, unlike glued-on nameplates. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) I thought the 3 circles symbolise: 1) the third attempt in history to construct a channel tunnel, 2) the 3 tunnel bores in total , 2 running bores and the service access bore, 3) the three French workers killed during construction. Edited October 13, 2019 by Pandora Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Pandora said: I thought the 3 circles symbolise: 1) the third attempt in history to construct a channel tunnel, 2) the 3 tunnel bores in total , 2 running bores and the service access bore, 3) the three French workers killed during construction. You'll have to ask the consultancy who designed them. But I think that if you are right in one respect there should have been two larger ones of the same size with a smaller one between them for the most common arrangement of the running tunnels and the service tunnel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirey33 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Go faster stripes was so 1980’s... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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