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Q&A - The 00 Wishlist Poll 2019


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Hello Sturminster Newton

 

We used to have an Underground category but deleted it (and the Industrial category) this year to concentrate on 'core content'. Our reasons have been given in many past postings.

 

If you wish to vote, please see the link at the bottom of the first post of this thread (but please read the Q&A first). The Class 230 Vivarail is listed as the last item under Category 7 Railbuses, Railcars & DMUs.

 

Brian (on behalf of The 00 Wishlist Poll Team)

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Apologies if this is somewhat irrelevant but I wanted to say thank you for taking the time to compile the list to hopefully show manufacturers what modellers want. It is very much appreciated. 

 

Here's hoping 323s finally make it into production!

 

Tom

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On 20/10/2019 at 18:17, AY Mod said:

 

I do wish such queries were addressed with more courtesy.

I was trying being brief as I didn't see it high on the scale of importance. I do have Autism and my communication skills aren't the best. If you could please provide example on how would have been better to ask, I'd appreciate the lesson.

 

The other way I could think of phrasing it was: "Why is there no class 172 option?", However I thought that sounds a bit more snappy/angry than just saying "No Class 172?!" which sounds more of just expressing a slight grudge. Being a forum rather than an email/letter too much surrounding content seems excessive:

 

"Hi,

 

I was just wondering why there is no class 172 option?

 

Thanks,

<name>."

 

If I was to just extract that question out, it would still seem bad as suggests a lot of selfishness given the prominence of "I" unnecessarily and I'm not sure how else I would frame the question.

 

 

 

 

Personally I think a PM regarding language use would have been more appropriate than public shaming in regards to this. 

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1 hour ago, centraltrains said:

 Personally I think a PM regarding language use would have been more appropriate than public shaming in regards to this. 

 

Bit you have asked this above -

 

1 hour ago, centraltrains said:

If you could please provide example on how would have been better to ask, I'd appreciate the lesson.

 

There's nothing wrong with this

 

1 hour ago, centraltrains said:

Hi,

I was just wondering why there is no class 172 option? 

Thanks,

 

It contains a complete sentence without the surplus exclamation and finishes with a courtesy. It's very much the same vein as Brian's responses to people. 

 

Just use some politeness, please don't claim to be victimised though for something which is not reasonably evident to others.

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5 hours ago, AY Mod said:

It contains a complete sentence without the surplus exclamation and finishes with a courtesy. It's very much the same vein as Brian's responses to people. 

  

Just use some politeness, please don't claim to be victimised though for something which is not reasonably evident to others.

 

After googling the word victimised, I disagree, you defiantly did that. It's not really a polite thing to do to anyone, quoting a post with reply in a negative way for structural purposes without commenting on why. If people are to learn - they need to know, and I understand now. So thank you very much for that expansion (and that is serious/non-sarcastic).

 

 

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Hello Anglian

 

Many thanks for the kind comments and for taking part in the spirit in which it is intended.

 

Indeed, The Poll is many days in the making. We first started The Poll in its current format in 2012, although we had been working on it for some time before that. 

 

The Team is in touch most weeks throughout the year but we have a full review of every item and link over a 10-week period between June and early September. We then 'close for press' and the data goes to Andy York to construct the very clear pages you voted upon. At that time, we open an agenda for the following year.

 

It could be described as hard work, but we enjoy the process and learn as we go. And part of the overall plan is for voters to learn from The Guide.

 

If anyone reading this hasn't yet voted you only have until Saturday! 

 

Brian (on behalf of The 00 Wishlist Poll Team)

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3 hours ago, Anglian said:

Many thanks for creating this list, it must have taken days and days. However many days it's appreciated.

 

I've placed my votes (about a dozen) and have only voted for items that I would definitely pre-order today, were that possible.

I've voted for rather more on the assumption that, even if all my picks were to be announced, delivery would be spread over three or four years...:angel:

 

John

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Hello Dunsignalling

 

That is perfectly within the spirit of The Poll, too. As long as they are items that voters would realistically wish to buy at sometime in the future, we are happy to accept the votes.

 

Brian (on behalf of The 00 Wishlist Poll Team).

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With the listing of several interesting locomotive classes the team have provided there are some omissions in the LNER grouping notably the eX LNER D21 4-4-0 tender locomotive these where extremely charming small tender locomotives although a small number in the class . Those modellers familiar with the old gem white metal kits will be familar with the class. Given the promise in next few years of new models of ex north eastern locomotive classes there follows the need for approapriate rolling stock 

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Hello 4firstimes

 

Many thanks for writing. 

 

You have noted the (quote) 'omission' of the D21. As we say in the Q&A at the start of this thread, we could list 30,000+ items so we have to draw a line somewhere. The D21 is not an 'omission' per se - it is just 'not listed'.

 

Back in 2011/2012, we 'rationalised' the content of a Poll that had been run on the old, original MREmag and that has provided a basis to work on ever since. The D21 - and many others - would have been taken out for good reason of very, very low or non-existent votes.

 

You are right that there is a need for more rolling stock. Within the 112 new items listed this year, 23 are steam era hauled passenger types.

 

I hope that helps.

 

Brian (on behalf of The 00 Poll Team)

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On 30/10/2019 at 16:58, BMacdermott said:

Hello gpplumy

 

We explained our valid reasoning last year.

 

Brian (on behalf of The 00 Poll Team)

 

Before the poll reaches its close I'd like to compliment Brian on his ongoing politeness in the face of repeated utterances from those who don't read what has gone before. ;)

 

And he's got to spend half of next week reading responses to the final questions from the hard of understanding!

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Thanks Andy

 

We went into the new - but 'experimental' - Category 21 with 'eyes wide open'' having had much experience in the past particularly back in the old MREmag days.

 

My task there has been made really easy by the way you will be able to present the data to me and I much appreciate it. It may look a bit daunting at first as 'raw data' but patterns soon emerge. 

 

A reminder to all...get your votes in before it's too late!

 

Brian (on behalf of The 00 Poll Team)

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32 minutes ago, BMacdermott said:

We went into the new - but 'experimental' - Category 21 with 'eyes wide open'' having had much experience in the past particularly back in the old MREmag days.

 

 

How pragmatic! I do wonder if some of them shout at pigeons in the park too with their demands. ;) I must forward you the email I've had remonstrating about his comparatively niche interest not being taken seriously enough. I did suggest that he create his own poll for that but that wasn't what he meant apparently. :D

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Hello Andy

 

I'm always happy to take 'content' emails from you. As we note in the Q&A, we request pollsters to only contact you with technical queries.

 

The post above was suggesting we had left items out...the post below (which is verbatim and exactly as received on a specialist email group) suggests we have too much! 

 

The upshot was that I had a very supportive email from another member of the same email group which confirmed our feeling that we have it 'about right'. However, we will continue to review all reasonable suggestions through our agenda process.

 

All the best

 

Brian (on behalf of The 00 Poll Team)

 

Way over complicated!  You’ve got to wade your way through so much guff it puts people off voting. Needs to be much less complicated and fewer choices. 

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4 hours ago, AY Mod said:

 

How pragmatic! I do wonder if some of them shout at pigeons in the park too with their demands. ;) I must forward you the email I've had remonstrating about his comparatively niche interest not being taken seriously enough. I did suggest that he create his own poll for that but that wasn't what he meant apparently. :D

 

It's what you have to do...

 

 

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Hello everyone

 

This is the FINAL CALL for your votes in The 00 Wishlist Poll 2019 - we close this evening.

 

We will set up a new thread entitled Results - The 00 Wishlist Poll 2019 sometime during the week.

 

Brian (on behalf of The 00 Poll Team)

 

 

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14 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

It's what you have to do...

If there was an annual award category for 'RTR model railway interest satire', that would be my winning entry selection.

 

19 hours ago, BMacdermott said:

We went into the new - but 'experimental' - Category 21 with 'eyes wide open'' having had much experience in the past particularly back in the old MREmag days.


My task there has been made really easy by the way you will be able to present the data to me and I much appreciate it. It may look a bit daunting at first as 'raw data' but patterns soon emerge. 

Brian, I am awaiting this output with the greatest interest. Will it be a near random 'splatter', or will there be some clear indications of 'this could and should have a better model'?

 

And again to the whole team, thanks for the hard greft.

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Hello 34C

 

Many thanks for writing and for your continued support.

 

I'll have to keep you waiting for the results but I can say that the Category 21 venture was exactly as we expected to be. As you know, we ran plenty of similar - but smaller - exercises on the old MREmag. The way Andy can present the data to me - and I have already seen results up to a certain point in time - is very clear and won't take me very long to put into result presentation format. I'm already 90% done - unless we get several thousand more votes today!

 

With the 'new style' of the voting pages, I have been able to follow votes literally as they happen. This has enabled me to prepare 'dummy results' as if we had closed at various points over the last three weeks and they are consistent.

 

Brian

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12 hours ago, BMacdermott said:

Hello everyone

 

This is the FINAL CALL for your votes in The 00 Wishlist Poll 2019 - we close this evening.

 

We will set up a new thread entitled Results - The 00 Wishlist Poll 2019 sometime during the week.

Brian, I hope you had a good turnout for this year's poll. As always I look forward to your publication of the results.

 

As usual the Poll team did an excellent job of providing detailed guidance for each of the items in the poll. The level of detail in the guides gets better and better every year. The level of research that goes into producing the guides is very evident.

 

"Thank you" to you and the whole poll team.

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