Bassettblowke Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Always on the lookout for an oddball bargain I found this wooden wagon body for £4, eventually I found the embossed card overlay was by a maker by the name of Domascelles. Produced in the postwar years in the dying days of popular O gauge. fitted with modern ACE/Darstaed couplings, Brass buffers of unknown make, Bonds Brass axle boxes and Hornby axles and plastic wheels, it runs nicely and makes a nice alternative to the more often seen LMC overlay stock. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CKPR Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 The first, and until now the last, time I read about the Domascelles wagon sides was in Jem Harrison's ' Scratchbuilding for the hamfisted' series in MR in 1979 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassettblowke Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) Scratchbuilding for the hamfisted sounds right up my street, having reached an age where shaking hands, dodgy eyesight and sausage fingers are the norm I need all the help I can get. Off on a tangent looking at the images that I posted the white line at the end of the overlay is glaringly obvious much less so when you have it actually in your hand. It’s easily rectified with a fine line of black ink or a wash of dirty thinners but I think in future an inspection by photographic imagery might become the order of the day. Edited October 15, 2019 by Bassettblowke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) It wasn't copied from the Peco 4mm 'Wonderful Wagon' by any chance was it? It even has the same number! https://peco-uk.com/products/baddesley-coal-7-plank I didn't know they were still available! I'm on my second one of these. The first was stolen by gremlins or vanished into hyperspace or something in about 1964 Edited October 15, 2019 by Il Grifone 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassettblowke Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 When I first started researching it I had the same thought, it was a query on the Classic O forum that came up with information about Domascelles from a far more knowledgeable contributor than myself. I have another different unused one stashed somewhere safe, sadly so safe I can’t find it, I am sure one day when I am looking for something else it will turn up. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I have lots of things in that 'safe place'.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassettblowke Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 Well I struck lucky today either that or my wife gave me another clout with the cricket bat and jarred my memory, which lead to an inspired guess and I turned up half of the missing card overlay. Just need to find the other half now. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) Just popped into Cheltenham Model Centre this afternoon and guess what they had for sale in the 'O' gauge cabinet ? Several sets of Domascelles PO wagon cards. Edited May 13, 2021 by CKPR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Are they still there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, Nearholmer said: Are they still there? I was there at about 3.30pm this afternoon so they are probably still there - they are in a glass cabinet with some other 'O' gauge bits and bobs in the front of the pay desk at the back of the shop. Edited October 20, 2019 by CKPR 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassettblowke Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 Ah the joy of a proper model shop, if it was in range I would hop on the old three speed and hurtle off down there. Sadly Hatton’s which was once a treasure trove of items that had been traded in is now predominantly a stack it high and flog it cheap internet retailer, situated on an out of town industrial estate at the end of the M57 highway to hell. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassettblowke Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 A then and then and now not quite sure what Norman would make of the new use for his old emporium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 CKPR Seven sets of sides secured at a sensible price ......, many thanks for the top. I’m unlikely to want to make all seven, and will probably select a few that match my area of interest, so will post details of any surplus ones. Kevin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassettblowke Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 Bruce Palmer of Palmer and Davies fame may well be interested in acquiring copies for their archive he can be found on the Classic O forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I know Bruce a little, and that’s a sound suggestion. I will try to remember to take the cards to the next meet where I’m likely to see him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Metropolitan H Posted October 22, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2019 I think Bruce already has copies? - I'm wondering what happened to the set of "Baddesley" sides that I bought in the early / mid 1970s? Are they sitll in the cupboard, I shall have to go on a hunt! Chris H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium NCB Posted October 22, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2019 On 15/10/2019 at 13:34, Il Grifone said: It wasn't copied from the Peco 4mm 'Wonderful Wagon' by any chance was it? It even has the same number! https://peco-uk.com/products/baddesley-coal-7-plank I didn't know they were still available! I'm on my second one of these. The first was stolen by gremlins or vanished into hyperspace or something in about 1964 Surprised that they're still available (the overlays and the underframe). The only things they don't seem to do are the actual body shells; suppose one could knock them up from plasticard or the like. I quite liked the Wonderful Wagons, added a bit of variety. From memory I had the Bass and Worthington beer wagons, and the Mendip Quarries and Pwllheli Granite opens. Intend to dig this stuff out over the winter and take some snaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassettblowke Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) Nearholmer It would be handy if you could list the ones you have and if anyone could add any information as to what the whole range of Domascelles sides consisted of. Any pics would be a bonus and much appreciated. Edited October 23, 2019 by Bassettblowke Afterthought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) Good idea - I could send a few snaps to Graeme at Binns Road, for him to put on his inestimable website. When the package arrives .... Edited October 23, 2019 by Nearholmer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce palmer Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Finally joined this Forum . We do the bodies for the Domascelles open wagon ...aka the standard leeds 7 plank ...just got 15 more on order ! We were sorting out the lithos last week and remembered that 3 of the designs have been copied already ...but the second one is new to me ! Cant reproduce the embossing though . I reckon there were about 7 but Id have to look at my collection to remember them all ...most we haven't got masters for . Of course you cant have too many wooden wagons and Im getting together another mould of bits for them these will include white metal copies of those Bonds axleguards and also their diamond frame bogies . The BL buffers are already in our range .Any suggestions for other bits we could include at the same time ? Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) Here’s what I bagged thanks to CKPR’s intelligence. Some look a bit tatty, but the vital parts of the cards are actually all in very good condition. They seem to focus largely around Birmingham, so maybe the designer was a Brummie. I’ve got two wooden bodies and sets of bits in stock, so will attack probably the gas board one and Clee hill first. Whether I let any go is open to question now - I rather like them all! As to bits, Bruce, the slimmer (Bonds?) style drop-link couplers, and turned brass buffers are my preferences over Ace couplers and Leeds WM wide buffers. Edited October 27, 2019 by Nearholmer 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassettblowke Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 Good to see you here Bruce, now this is just an idle thought on my part something my wife reckons I excel at (dreaming up things for other people to do). Is it possible to scan and then by computer wizardry change the running number so that it becomes possible to run a rake of one company’s wagons all with different numbers. i seem to have struck lucky in that the BADDESLEY wagon which I have is the one that most appeals to me and I would like to add a couple more and a variety of different numbers would be a bonus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 And, does anyone know what DCA as a wagon owner signifies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassettblowke Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) I think Doncaster Colliery’s Association, I seem to recall Hornby did the self same wagon in OO, Looks pretty naff in plastic much better in O on a wooden wagon body methinks. Edited October 27, 2019 by Bassettblowke Add image 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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