Moderators Popular Post AY Mod Posted October 15, 2019 Moderators Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2019 PRESS RELEASE The partnership of Dapol, Rails of Sheffield and Locomotion Models have today (15th October 2019) announced the release of a brand new OO scale model of the South Eastern & Chatham Railway D Class 4-4-0 locomotive. This is the first time that this locomotive has been produced in OO in ready to run form. Prototype Information 51 locomotives D Class 4-4-0 locomotives were built between February 1901 and March 1907 during the Wainwright period by the South Eastern & Chatham Railway. The design work for these locomotives was carried out at the SE & CR Ashford Works under the direction of the company’s Locomotive, Carriage & Wagon Superintendent, Harry S Wainwright (1864 -1925). Wainwright held the post from 1899 until his retirement in 1913. However, the design was undertaken by Surtees, who was the SE & CR Chief Draughtsman, having held a similar position with the London, Chatham & Dover Railway before it amalgamated with the South Eastern Railway in 1913 to become the SE & CR. Running Numbers Built Dates 726 – 735 (10) Sharp, Stewart & Co (Glasgow) 1901 736 – 740 (5) No. 737 (Railway Museum) is from this batch SE & CR Ashford Works 1901 741 – 745 (5) Robert Stephenson (Newcastle) 1901 57 / 246 / 487 / 488 / 490 (5) SE & CR Ashford Works 1902 75 / 92 / 145 / 247 / 489 / 492 - 494 / 501 – 502 (10) Dubs & Co, Glasgow 1903 746 – 750 (5) Vulcan Foundry (Leeds) 1903 470 / 509 / 545 / 549 / 577 (5) SE & CR Ashford Works 1906 477 / 496 / 505 / 574 / 586 / 591 (6) SE & CR Ashford Works 1907 From delivery these locomotives were used on the prime express trains to the Kent Coast and Hastings including those carrying boat train traffic for the Continent via the Cinque Ports. As a result, D Class locomotives were painted in the passenger livery of Brunswick Green bordered with black and green bands and red / yellow lining During the First World War there was a considerable increase in troop and ambulance train traffic between London and the ports of Dover and Folkestone. The Reading – Guildford – Tonbridge route also saw traffic increase with four locomotives being transferred to Reading to cope with the extra demands. The D Class were also utilised on trains conveying armoured vehicles to Richborough and other ports as the war advanced in Europe. Twenty-one of the Class were rebuilt between April 1921 and October 1927 as D1 Class 4-4-0s, leaving 30 D Class locomotives in operation. During the first years of the Southern Railway the locomotives continued to appear on front-line express duties. As larger locomotives appeared such as the King Arthur Class 4-6-0s in 1925 and L1 Class 4-4-0s in 1926, the D Class locomotives began to appear on South Central services (formerly operated by the London, Brighton & South Coast Railway). The D Class locomotives began operating services into Sussex from Tunbridge Wells to Lewes, Chatham to Brighton, Tonbridge to Eastbourne and Tonbridge to Brighton. There was a major increase in services on the Tonbridge – Tunbridge Wells – Sussex Coast service from 1929. During the 1930s the Class continued to perform on secondary services to the Kent Coast and also on services to and from the Medway towns. They were also the mainstay of services over the Reading – Guildford – Tonbridge route. The outbreak of World War 2 in September 1939 saw many of the class laid up due to the wartime travel restrictions resulting in a reduction of passenger traffic. The Nationalisation of the railways took place on 1st January 1948 which saw the formation of British Railways with 28 members of the D Class entering British Railways stock, two of the total class of 30 locomotives being scrapped prior to Nationalisation. the first No. 1742 due to war damage. Some locomotives were allocated S numbers as pre-fixes to the existing numbers, two locomotives retaining them until withdrawal and did not carry BR running numbers in the 3xxxx series (BR Southern Region numbering system). The first of the Class (No. 1242) was withdrawn in October 1944 due to wartime damage and the last in December 1956. The locomotive originally selected for preservation was No. 31734 but this was found to have defective frames and cylinders. It was stored inside Ashford shed ready for preservation, but No. 31737 replaced it. No. 31737 had been withdrawn from traffic at Guildford MPD in November 1956 having run 1,694,660 miles in traffic and was in virtually as built condition. After a year languishing outside Ashford Works it was transferred to Tweedmouth Motive Power Depot in Northumberland and stored in the roundhouse there. It returned south to Ashford Works on 15th December 1959. As the locomotive was for static display only several replica fittings replaced the later pattern ones (lubricators, couplings, dome cover, safety valves and copper capped chimney), restoring it to original condition, albeit non-working. It arrived at Clapham Museum on 27th June 1960. Along with other items removed from Clapham, after a period of storage, it moved to the then new National Railway Museum at York for its opening in 1975, becoming part of the National Collection. No. 737 featured in the railway scenes filmed at York for the 1981 film ‘Chariots of Fire’. The Model The model of the D Class has been produced by a partnership of Dapol Ltd, Locomotion Models and Rails of Sheffield Ltd. No OO scale D Class locomotive has been available before ready to run. It has been produced using the preserved No. 737 in association with a team of expert contributors from museum and specialist modellers. The following versions are being produced; Catalogue No. Description 4S-027-NRM02 D Class SECR No. 737 NRM Preserved Semi-Gloss Finish 4S-027-001 D Class SECR No. 488 Pre-Grouping Silk Finish 4S-027-002 D Class Southern Lined Maunsell Olive Green No. 1730 4S-027-003 D Class BR Sunshine lettering No. 31731 4S-027-004 D Class BR black Early Crest No. 31574 4S-027-005 D Class SECR Grey, scraped beading No. 726 4S-027-006 D Class Southern Sunshine No. 1734 Models will have NEM coupling pockets, Next-18 Decoder socket, ‘pullout’ PCB and solderless speaker (plus provision for customer to fit Bass reflex speaker in tender). Locomotives will feature a firebox flicker effect. Another feature is the drawbar between the locomotive and tender which is of a new ‘pinless’ type carrying the electrical connection. Dapol are the first manufacturer to use this type of drawbar on a British outline OO scale locomotive. To couple the locomotive to the tender it is necessary to connect on it on a straight piece of track to enable them to be pushed together. Dapol Ltd was formed in 1981 when David Boyle along with this wife Pauline (Polly) acquired surplus stock from the former Airfix Great Model Railways range through their original company Highfield Birds & Models. In 1985, Dapol acquired the former Airfix tooling and subsequently added tooling from the former Trix/Lilliput and Wrenn Railways. In 1994 the company moved to Llangollen and commenced production in a former mill which also served as an exhibition centre. Initially the company specialised in low run wagon production commissioned by societies, retailers and private individuals. In 1999, founder David Boyle left the company which passed to other family members. Within a year the company was producing a ready to run model of a Pendolino produced in conjunction with Virgin Trains. Following a move down the road to Chirk in 2004, the company entered the British N gauge market, introduced new tooling for OO scale and entered the O gauge market in 2011. Since then the company has produced a wide range of models for all three scales. Dapol first worked with Rails of Sheffield and Locomotion Models on the London, Brighton & South Coast A1/A1X ‘Terrier’ 0-6-0T which will be released soon. Neil Morrlle, Marketing Manager of Dapol said “Team Dapol is extremely proud to be involved in another prestigious National Railway Museum and Rails of Sheffield collaborative project. The OO Gauge D Class will showcase the latest cutting-edge model railway technology developed by Dapol, designed to make DCC and DCC Sound installation easier and more accessible to modellers than ever before. The models will feature an extraordinarily high level of fidelity to the prototype with all of the usual features, high levels of performance and exquisite standard of decorative finish that we have all come to expect”. Rails of Sheffield was formed in the 1970s as an extension to Hedley Barber’s grocery business. When son John left school and joined the business in 1984, they moved into a rented shop in Chesterfield Road which allowed the company to expand full time into model railways. It subsequently purchased adjacent properties and now provides considerable retail space in addition to serving its many on-line and mail order customers across the World. Still run by John, his wife Tracy, nephews Adam and Oliver plus a team of shop and mail order staff, the company has commissioned models from several manufacturers including Dapol. John Barber, Managing Director of Rails of Sheffield Ltd said “This is another stunning model to add to the growing collection of Exclusive Editions in the ever growing "Rails Limited” range. We are delighted to be working once again with our partners Dapol and the Railway Museum to produce another iconic locomotive class from the National Collection. The SECR Wainwright D Class has been much demanded for several years and we are delighted to be able to produce it for the first time in ready to run OO scale with a wide range of options covering its entire working and preserved life. The standard we have set for the design is ‘Museum Quality’ and what you are seeing so far certainly suggests that aim will be well and truly met, accompanied by some new innovative design features.” The models can be pre-ordered from today for a deposit of £30 from www.railsofsheffield.com or www.locomotionmodels.com for No. 737 in preserved condition. 18 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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darren01 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) Hi This has just come in to day. Darren https://railsofsheffield.com/products/39190/Dapol-4s-027-001-oo-gauge-wainwright-d-class-secr-green-4-4-0-steam-locomotive-no-488-pre-grouping-silk-finish- Edited October 15, 2019 by darren01 wrong file Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted October 15, 2019 Author Moderators Share Posted October 15, 2019 Expected delivery date Q3 2020. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well done Locomotion, Rails and Dapol. Put my name down for everything in SECR colours please (and one BR one). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR Dave Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 YES ! YES ! YES ! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Live from York .... 8 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Excellent. I'm a bit surprised that the whole boiler including smokebox is metal whilst the cab and splashers are plastic, since this will push the centre of mass well forward of the driving wheels - I hope traction tyres aren't involved. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 From your correspondent reporting live from York, 7 versions in the initial release ... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, locoholic said: Excellent. I'm a bit surprised that the whole boiler including smokebox is metal whilst the cab and splashers are plastic, since this will push the centre of mass well forward of the driving wheels - I hope traction tyres aren't involved. It might be hard to get the splashers thin enough if they were in metal. But agree, hopefully the weight is centred between the drivers. The Hattons 14XX and Hornby H are not and it really affects running and haulage power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR Dave Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) I'll probably have 2 or 3 but not going to commit until they give a price estimate Just seen the sub £200 bit. Rails website just says TBA Edited October 15, 2019 by GNR Dave new information Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Fantastic - I've already put a pre-order in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzer models Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 in a email from Rails The models can be pre-ordered from today for a deposit of £30.00. Delivery is expected in Q3 2020 and our aim is to produce the model for less than £200 (subject to £ / USA $ exchange rates on delivery) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted October 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, locoholic said: Excellent. I'm a bit surprised that the whole boiler including smokebox is metal whilst the cab and splashers are plastic, since this will push the centre of mass well forward of the driving wheels - I hope traction tyres aren't involved. Surely, the prototype locomotive would suffer much the same problem. The issue for the model is about how you fix and spring the pony so that is takes its fair share of the weight. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Edit: oooo the SR Green one has a late 1xxx number, might have to get that as well as the wartime black, possibly, maybe.... Edited October 15, 2019 by GreenGiraffe22 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted October 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 15, 2019 SECR (and that part of the South-East) now very well served, perhaps the best pre-group era selection of locomotives and rolling stock. The former SER had a number of compact modellable stations as well as "might-have-been" projects, so I think we may see quite a few defections of modellers to follow SECR/SR/BR(S) as their prototype. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, locoholic said: Excellent. I'm a bit surprised that the whole boiler including smokebox is metal whilst the cab and splashers are plastic, since this will push the centre of mass well forward of the driving wheels - I hope traction tyres aren't involved. If you read the blurb you will see that for the first time in the UK it has a push together loco to tender coupling, or words like that. If this is on the lines of continental models then a good portion of the tender weight will actually be going onto the rear of the cab. I have confidence that the parties involved know what they are doing. Bernard 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Joseph_Pestell said: Surely, the prototype locomotive would suffer much the same problem. The issue for the model is about how you fix and spring the pony so that is takes its fair share of the weight. The issue is much more pronounced on a model, since the mass is proportional to the cube root of the scale. I would really be happier if the cab at least was a metal casting, instead of the smokebox. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 15, 2019 Well, I'll be D... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted October 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bernard Lamb said: If you read the blurb you will see that for the first time in the UK it has a push together loco to tender coupling, or words like that. If this is on the lines of continental models then a good portion of the tender weight will actually be going onto the rear of the cab. I have confidence that the parties involved know what they are doing. Bernard I think that would worry me. The trick of having the tender weigh down the back of the loco works well enough on a layout with proper points and wide curves. I think it could be problematic for a 4-4-0 on trainset points and curves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Joseph_Pestell said: Surely, the prototype locomotive would suffer much the same problem. The issue for the model is about how you fix and spring the pony so that is takes its fair share of the weight. The prototype seeks to distribute weight as evenly as possible across all wheels and each wheel has suspension to help this and retain grip. A model chassis is rigid in comparison and we have no need to have weight distributed evenly to avoid damaging the rails etc. A 500 tonne train would equate to 1.13 kilos yet our model rolling stock will exceed that by some measure. Real trains are steel on steel (a fair degree of friction), our models are diecast wheels on nickel silver rail (less friction). At the same the model runs on track conditions (tighter radiuses, sharper gradient changes) that the real thing. So what weight the model has needs to be centred between the drivers to ensure best running and pulling. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR Dave Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 They already have the 'first engineering prototype' (does this mean 3D print ?) so work is obviously well advanced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted October 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 15, 2019 More details of the releases here https://grahammuz.com/2019/10/15/wainwright-secr-d-class-4-4-0-to-be-produced-in-00-by-rails-of-sheffield/ 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_lner Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 There's a closeup picture of the EP on brms Instagram page. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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