Phil Traxson Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 During my relocation from Derby to Porthmadog I have unearthed some patterns for a casting commission I did for some R.V.R. 4 wheel, Hurst Nelson, coach sides and ends, for models of those supplied for the opening of the line in 1900.The R.V.R. had 6 of these coaches, 4 third class and 2 firsts, although externally they were identical. More importantly there is also a note giving me permission to add these to my Portwynnstay Models range if I so wished, which I had previously overlooked. I am just wondering if there is any interest in my marketing these, or even if it is worth outsourcing the rest of the parts to develop a complete kit for them (minus wheels) , with an apparent rising interest in light railways, I think this is probably the best place to ask to gauge the interest. Your opinions would be appreciated ladies and gents. Phil Traxson Port Wynnstay Models 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2019 I suspect your timing is impecccable. While I am not an O Scaler, that community will have been looking over the fence and seeing what Hatton's are now offering the 4mm scale crowd in the way of generic 4- and 6-wheel coaches. Yours are a specific prototype, sure, but with Terriers in the same scale now off the shelf, these could be very popular. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 If the price is within my budget, I would be up for a couple of sets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Traxson Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 hours ago, sem34090 said: If the price is within my budget, I would be up for a couple of sets. They are working out at £10.50 for a set of two sides and two ends. Sole bars are moulded with the sides and buffer planks with the ends, and the sides have a recess in the back to locate the glazing. Thanks for your reply, Phil Traxson Port Wynnstay Models 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 That's well within my budget! I could do with some in 'generic light railway mucky varnished wood' and possibly a set in LSWR livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NeilHB Posted October 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2019 Phil, I think that a full kit would make a good addition to the PW range. I’d certainly like a couple to go with the one I’ve already got. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike Bellamy Posted October 22, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2019 Phil Please add me to the list . . . . . . . . it's about time I actually built something ! Mike 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, Phil Traxson said: During my relocation from Derby to Porthmadog I have unearthed some patterns for a casting commission I did for some R.V.R. 4 wheel, Hurst Nelson, coach sides and ends, for models of those supplied for the opening of the line in 1900.The R.V.R. had 6 of these coaches, 4 third class and 2 firsts, although externally they were identical. More importantly there is also a note giving me permission to add these to my Portwynnstay Models range if I so wished, which I had previously overlooked. I am just wondering if there is any interest in my marketing these, or even if it is worth outsourcing the rest of the parts to develop a complete kit for them (minus wheels) , with an apparent rising interest in light railways, I think this is probably the best place to ask to gauge the interest. Your opinions would be appreciated ladies and gents. Phil Traxson Port Wynnstay Models Like most have bought some small 7 mm scale locos and plan to build a small layout to run them, I would think initially a limited run perhapps with those who have shown an interest may give you an idea of whether either having them as a basic kit (hints of who supplies the parts would help) or if there is an interest in a fill kit I for one would jump at the offer of a part kit at £10.50 Would it be this coach ? http://colonelstephenssociety.co.uk/light railway modelling/light railway modelling rvr.html Edited October 23, 2019 by hayfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Traxson Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, hayfield said: Like most have bought some small 7 mm scale locos and plan to build a small layout to run them, I would think initially a limited run perhapps with those who have shown an interest may give you an idea of whether either having them as a basic kit (hints of who supplies the parts would help) or if there is an interest in a fill kit I for one would jump at the offer of a kit at £10.50 Would it be this coach ? http://colonelstephenssociety.co.uk/light railway modelling/light railway modelling rvr.html I'm afraid the full kits would be some what more than £10.50, this is the price for a set of sides and ends which I can put into production as soon as I am back from trading at ExpoNG in Swanley this next Saturday,(26th October). For the full kit I need to source or make patterns for all the running gear plus seats. Wheels I leave to the builders as there are so many different standards in use from S7 to old fashioned coarse Hornby. I think, based on the price I have to charge for my 7 mm. standard gauge wagons, that they will probably come out at around £35.00 plus. Bearing in mind that a set of sprung buffers are around the £7 mark, "W" iron/spring/axleboxes similar, plus seats and materials for floor, roof and glazing, instructions and packaging. (note the suggested collective name for a group of Traders/Manufacturers is a "whinge" !! ) Phil Traxson Port Wynnstay Models Edited October 23, 2019 by Phil Traxson Missed a bit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Phil Sorry for my confusing posting, which I now have edited As I poorly said I would jump at a part kit for £10.50, happy to be included if a list is compiled A suggestion of which suppliers may have parts to finish the coach would be useful to those of us new to the 7mm scene, though I guess after a pair of Slaters etched W irons and buffers from them or Roxey mouldings the rest of the parts may be relatively easy to fabricate 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Young Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 In best Blue Peter style, here’s one I made earlier... to wet the appetite. It’s a lovely carriage. Phil provided me with sides, ends, some brake gear and spring castings. I built a floor and chassis out of styrene to which I added W irons, wheels and buffers from a Slater’s wagon chassis kit. The roof is one of the 7mmNGA roof sections and seats were knocked up out of styrene. A thoroughly enjoyable build, must finish off the rest of the train now. Cheers, Andrew 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Traxson Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 New moulds have been produced and casting of sides and ends has begun, these will be available in sets of 2 of each , to make one body, from the middle of January 2020. Initially about a dozen sets, as this is about the life of the moulds. Further production will then depend on demand. Further work is being undertaken to source or produce suitable parts to make up complete kits but I can set no date on this. Hopefully I can source buffers, springs and axleguards from available commercial ones. Seats, footboards, brake gear, etc. will have to have patterns made, this will have to be done in between casting the rest of my range of kits so could take some time as I am definitely a one man band. (with an over abundance of instruments to play!) Phil Traxson Port Wynnstay Models 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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