DavidMatthewson Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I'm looking for any info on the China clay piers which were on the Fowey branch in Cornwall. I'm aware there are 'new' piers there which are still rail worked but I'm interested in data relating to what was there 1900-1960 or so. This pic is from 1928. Ideally I'm looking for drawings of the structures or any book etc which might have them as I'm looking to model them. The pic below is more modern I think, looking at the ship. T All suggestions much appreciated - NB - the photos are not my (c) and are sourced from Google and are just for research purposes - no infringement intended. Thanks David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted October 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2019 Some more photos here: http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/st-blazey-to-fowey-and-fowey-harbour.html 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 There are four pages of photos of the installations in 'Freight Wagons and Loads in service on the Great Western Railway, and British Rail, Western Region' by J H Russell. There's a particularily nice one of a three-masted sailing ship, taken at the beginning of the last century. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMatthewson Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 Many thanks to Stubby47 & the Fat Controller for the feedback. I'm off to buy the book TFC mentions! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGT1972 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Track down the Janes-style colour album 'Coasters of Cornwall' by Bernard McCall. There's a lovely picture on the front cover of the china clay facilities at Fowey in 1967 complete with china clay wagons and Palvans. The theme continues for the first six or so pages including one showing two unfitted Shell BP tanks delivering bunkering oil to a coaster at the end of one of the piers. The rest of the superbly produced book is full of inspiration for Cornish-themed port layouts. A wonderful book! Hywel 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2019 I have somewhere the complete working instructions for the movement of wagons to & from the tips - basically all about the way the capstans were to be worked. But no illustrations. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted October 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, The Stationmaster said: I have somewhere the complete working instructions for the movement of wagons to & from the tips - basically all about the way the capstans were to be worked. But no illustrations. Therefore, please draw your own conclusions 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMatthewson Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 4 hours ago, HGT1972 said: Track down the Janes-style colour album 'Coasters of Cornwall' by Bernard McCall. There's a lovely picture on the front cover of the china clay facilities at Fowey in 1967 complete with china clay wagons and Palvans. The theme continues for the first six or so pages including one showing two unfitted Shell BP tanks delivering bunkering oil to a coaster at the end of one of the piers. The rest of the superbly produced book is full of inspiration for Cornish-themed port layouts. A wonderful book! Hywel Many thanks - I'll do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMatthewson Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, DavidMatthewson said: Many thanks - I'll do that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted October 28, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 28, 2019 Not Fowey, but this cropped up on the Beeb https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-cornwall-50103638/charlestown-clay-tunnels-revealed-after-50-years 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMatthewson Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 Thanks.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 David, Just looked at a book called 'Great Western Docks and Marine' which, as its name suggests, deals with both all GWR-owned ports, and those which it served. There are four or five pages about Fowey, including some photos from a higher angle than normal, shewing the jetties almost from above. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMatthewson Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 £14.70 just spent - many thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 23/10/2019 at 07:59, DavidMatthewson said: I'm looking for any info on the China clay piers which were on the Fowey branch in Cornwall. I'm aware there are 'new' piers there which are still rail worked but I'm interested in data relating to what was there 1900-1960 or so. This pic is from 1928. Ideally I'm looking for drawings of the structures or any book etc which might have them as I'm looking to model them. The pic below is more modern I think, looking at the ship. T All suggestions much appreciated - NB - the photos are not my (c) and are sourced from Google and are just for research purposes - no infringement intended. Thanks David In the second picture, it looks like the ship is about to do a wheelie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMatthewson Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 To partially answer my own question, the Middleton Press 'Wenford Bridge to Fowey' book by Vic Mitchell & Keith Smith has a number of good photos of the site, both the GWR period and the more modern installation. Pub 1998, ISBN 1 901706 09 5 I found a copy for less than £10 on E-bay.. Section 87-102. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted November 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2019 On 25/10/2019 at 09:14, HGT1972 said: Track down the Janes-style colour album 'Coasters of Cornwall' by Bernard McCall. There's a lovely picture on the front cover of the china clay facilities at Fowey in 1967 complete with china clay wagons and Palvans. The theme continues for the first six or so pages including one showing two unfitted Shell BP tanks delivering bunkering oil to a coaster at the end of one of the piers. The rest of the superbly produced book is full of inspiration for Cornish-themed port layouts. A wonderful book! Hywel Thanks for the heads up on that, sounds very interesting so just blown 7 quid odd on a s/h copy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 For old piers and jetties, the old OS maps might be suitable? e.g. https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18&lat=50.3416&lon=-4.6324&layers=168&b=1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 18, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2019 Accurate detailed track layouts now available in recent reprints of Tony Cooke's GWR layout diagrams - Section 11, East Cornwall. Much more accurate than OS maps as it includes dated changes to the layout. http://lightmoor.co.uk/category.php?section=Track Plans 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: Accurate detailed track layouts now available in recent reprints of Tony Cooke's GWR layout diagrams - Section 11, East Cornwall. Much more accurate than OS maps as it includes dated changes to the layout. http://lightmoor.co.uk/category.php?section=Track Plans Thanks for the reference. As I don't have a copy at hand, I'm wondering if the Cooke Track Layout Diagram for East Cornwall shows the piers and jetties the OP asked about? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 19, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2019 16 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said: Thanks for the reference. As I don't have a copy at hand, I'm wondering if the Cooke Track Layout Diagram for East Cornwall shows the piers and jetties the OP asked about? They do - but only if there is track involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMatthewson Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, The Stationmaster said: They do - but only if there is track involved. Thanks for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMatthewson Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 On 19/11/2019 at 12:11, The Stationmaster said: They do - but only if there is track involved. Just bought it for £10 and really excellent maps. They cover from the mid 1800s to 1980s over several pages, do show the jetties and are just...brilliant. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Err, where are the jetties? On another page? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted November 22, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 22, 2019 Well scanning the relevant page and posting it here for all to see would be a pretty big copyright issue. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Ah yes, a copyright issue. Like the ones already scanned and posted here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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