RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2019 The hymeks acquired greb handles at the bottom of drivers doors later in life - apparently accidents occured when crews closed the doors whilst stood on the steps. https://www.rail-online.co.uk/p870200504/h24E34F41#h24e34f41 Had a go at doing them with brass tube - this is 3/32 but the grab holes are oblong on the real thing rather than square I reckon 2mm x 1.5mm will be better - but where from? Or can anyone suggest alternative materials please? Cheers Phil 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crompton 33 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 In the past i've used Guitar Strings. A visit to your Local music shop may have just what you need. The last time when i went it cost me less then £2.00 a string. You can get a lot of handrails from one string. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 27, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2019 Cheers . Unfortunately It’s not only the handrail . It’s also the slightly raised surround . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted October 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2019 These chaps sell rectangular brass “tube” but the smallest they do is 2mm x 1mm and 3mm x 1.5mm section size. Metalsmith Scroll down to the bottom of the list for the rectangular sections. It comes in 500mm lengths, which will cover a lot of Hymeks... Cheers Darius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 28, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2019 Many thanks Darius My googling had taken me there too - the smallest I could find! However also found these ... https://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/products/jedetail/deflectors/jek02 A pair contains 12 hand holds, with a grab handle soldered in they look like possibles so have ordered a couple of pairs - cutting them out will be fun Thanks again 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted May 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2022 Good evening Phil, As an aside to my catfish and Herring building I started work on a spare Heljan Hymek bodyshell today. Roof fan grille added and new horns, headboard clips removed and attention now to the door floor level grab handles. Although this thread nearly 3 years old I found this on the EMgauge 70s website from April 2019 (near bottom of the page) http://www.emgauge70s.co.uk/model_omwb154.html basically using plastruct strip and 0.3mm rod. I’ve sourced some 4x2mm rectangular sections too but not sure yet of the width of the plastic. Looks fiddly but nothing compared to Herring undergarments! hopefully see you soon. Plastruct ordered, I’m sure I can spare you a few strips. Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Not all Hymeks got these grab handles - the much-photographed D7054 certainly didn't and I don't think D7002/60 did either. These were all withdrawn in green - blue ones inevitably got the handles. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted May 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) Indeed as quoted in modern locomotives illustrated no 212 only 4 Hymeks were not so treated D7002/21/54 and D7060 mod MB 400/95 which started in 1966. Edit: all four of which never made it to blue. The bulk of my Hymek fleet will need modifying, not a trivial task. Neil Edited May 28, 2022 by Downendian Correction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted May 28, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2022 Very useful gen Neil thanks! Surprised 7021 never got them …. As a regular on Lickey Banking where there was much access from the ground at Bromsgrove would have thought it would have been popular. Have done them with brass section on 7022/3 in BFYE but can’t get photos here as they are with James for painting… Cheers Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted May 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2022 What size brass rectangular tube did you use Phil? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted May 28, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2022 Will have to check when they come back from James. I may have decided to compromise with square as in the photo up the thread…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2022 If you had some Rumney Bobol E conversion kits there are spare draw hook surrounds which might be the right size!! Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted May 28, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Enterprisingwestern said: If you had some Rumney Bobol E conversion kits there are spare draw hook surrounds which might be the right size!! Mike. I did have some once… 😃 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 6 hours ago, Downendian said: Indeed as quoted in modern locomotives illustrated no 212 only 4 Hymeks were not so treated D7002/21/54 and D7060 mod MB 400/95 which started in 1966. Edit: all four of which never made it to blue. The bulk of my Hymek fleet will need modifying, not a trivial task. Neil D7021 was one of those Hymeks I only ever saw once, in the scrapline at Bristol SPM on 4/4/72. That's my excuse for not noticing at the time. I also have MLI 212....................... can't think of an excuse for that! 🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted June 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) I think I’ve come up with a solution to this. Having purchased several “trial” etches, most of which were too big or too small, this is the closest I’ve got to modelling the prototype. After studying multiple prototype photos I was quite surprised how large these handles were. I was also wary that on the preserved locos modifications to this design may have been made, but apparently not. Anyhow the solution I’m going to use is the Ratio N gauge domestic windows etch - it is enough for 10 Hymeks assuming no cock ups, plus 0.3mm plastic rod from plastruct for the central bar. I’ve done a trial this morning and this looks about right, maybe a tad too wide but excuse the rough and ready shot, still some brass trimming to be done and the hole in the door still needs enlarging (note to self use masking tape to protect the bodywork), and the etch needs more accurate locating. I’ve affixed the rod to the rear of the brass etch, and will cut a notch in the door to recess this part of the etch when fitting. edit - image added two fitted today and given a waft of primer Final shot is the prototype structure on D7018 at Temple Meads, there are much better resolution shots of preserved examples but not my copyright. Neil Edited June 11, 2022 by Downendian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted June 11, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 11, 2022 Agreed this cracking Brush veteran photo leaves no doubt…. D7022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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