meatloaf 139 Posted October 26 Couple of quick questions if I may As its a full fat model - ie not railroad - does it have working lights? Also, the older ones had traction tyres = has this one disposed of them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adb968008 5,495 Posted October 26 21 minutes ago, meatloaf said: Couple of quick questions if I may As its a full fat model - ie not railroad - does it have working lights? Also, the older ones had traction tyres = has this one disposed of them? Yes it has bidirectional lights, No it does not have traction tyres. This is a very nice model, and have it along side their earlier 56042 Oystermouth (without redstripe) but is of the same “new” tooling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatloaf 139 Posted October 26 Thanks for the reply, prompty added to my to buy list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Croft 1,225 Posted November 8 (edited) On 26/10/2019 at 22:41, adb968008 said: Yes it has bidirectional lights, No it does not have traction tyres. This is a very nice model, and have it along side their earlier 56042 Oystermouth (without redstripe) but is of the same “new” tooling. It doesn’t have lights! its an ex Lima model with an updated chassis for improved running. Richard Edited November 8 by Richard Croft Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adb968008 5,495 Posted November 8 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Richard Croft said: It doesn’t have lights! its an ex Lima model with an updated chassis for improved running. Richard Lima has never made a class 56. Mainline originally made the 56, later Dapol, they too had lights. Hornby later took over production of that tooling for several years, but then retooled the model, to what is today’s model. Edited November 8 by adb968008 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Croft 1,225 Posted November 8 3 minutes ago, adb968008 said: Lima has never made a class 56. Mainline originally made the 56, later Dapol, they too had lights. Hornby later took over production of that tooling for several years, but then retooled the model, to what is today’s model. Sorry my mistake, I read it as 156 in RAF livery! I should probably go to bed! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adb968008 5,495 Posted November 8 No worries, it gives me chance to input more to the answer anyway... This is the list of Hornby class 56’s on the old tooling.. http://www.hornbyguide.com/class_details.asp?classid=137 this was on service sheet 221 The old tooling was retired and replaced in 2007. The new tooling (with several body styles) has two service sheets, DC and a DCC Sound, the DCC sound has a different lighting circuit DCC ready version: sheet 310 starting with R2645 including (R2962/X; R2645; R2646; R2647; R3050; R2648; R2776; R2750; R2751; R3052; R2864; R2752; R3265; R3473) DCC Sound version: Sheet 338b starting with catalog number R2781XS & R3033XS 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mezzoman253 908 Posted November 8 Excellent summary, thank you. Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernMafia 954 Posted November 8 It is a lovely model and a certain Cornwall based retailer is doing it for £99 at the moment... Although I was a little disappointed with mine in that there are a few decoration issues, I might be able to live with them though. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatloaf 139 Posted November 12 Ordered one from kernow today for the bargain price of £99.99. Will be here tomorrow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatloaf 139 Posted November 13 Arrived today and shes a beauty. Runs smooth from the box and it was fairly easy to get into to fit a decoder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueeighties 6,249 Posted November 14 On 08/11/2019 at 00:13, Richard Croft said: Sorry my mistake, I read it as 156 in RAF livery! I should probably go to bed! Or Specsavers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Croft 1,225 Posted November 14 1 hour ago, blueeighties said: Or Specsavers. No, just bed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogbox321 237 Posted November 15 On 08/11/2019 at 00:21, adb968008 said: No worries, it gives me chance to input more to the answer anyway... This is the list of Hornby class 56’s on the old tooling.. http://www.hornbyguide.com/class_details.asp?classid=137 this was on service sheet 221 Never knew this Hornby Guide existed. Its very good, but I would suggest there are a few errors. Whether they have used Hornby's intended production numbers? Example R2288 -56038 According to my info, that were never produced. Hattons have it on there website as record (but no photo!) Plus, when you click on it, it then shows R2288 as 56068 (again a number I don't believe actually got produced, although Dapol did 56068 in R/F (D12)). Plus 56068 is shown in EW&S, whilst the R2288 cat code is EWS with Beastie Logo. 56058 and 56105 were done in this livery (EW&S) as R2075 and R2075A respectively. Don't Hornby sometimes do computer generated images? I have found info on R2288 as listed in the following guises: R2288A = 56059, B = 56117, C = 56058, D = 56088. Before anyone says well there should be a R2288(blank), the year prior, when doing more than one number eg. The original three Transrail 56's, they each had a letter i.e. R2107A,B,C. Really good resource, and certainly not complaining, would just suggest a little caution on some of the details. Like I say, maybe Hornby originally intended to produce this? Possibly changed due to the front grille not being authentic to the early tool? Best Regards, C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rencar12 12 Posted November 16 (edited) What were your decoration concerns about the R3473? The price from Kernow is very good - does it definitely have lighting front and back? The last Class 56 I had, ran quite roughly and had a model driver in the cab. I think these were the much older design class 56? Thanks Edited November 16 by rencar12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ouroborus 523 Posted November 16 I think Kernow did quite well out of this thread! It sold me one too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatloaf 139 Posted November 16 8 hours ago, rencar12 said: What were your decoration concerns about the R3473? The price from Kernow is very good - does it definitely have lighting front and back? The last Class 56 I had, ran quite roughly and had a model driver in the cab. I think these were the much older design class 56? Thanks Yep deffo has working head and tail lights. The pics above do seem to show some bleed on the different colours but mines fine. fitted with a zimo decoder and ive got no complaints at all, for £99 its a no brainer really. Might get it sound fitted after ive got xmas out of the way, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rencar12 12 Posted November 17 Many thanks for that. Was it difficult to get the bodyshell off to fit the decoder? I have a couple of spare R8249 Hornby DCC decoders, so hopefully they'll be room to fit one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatloaf 139 Posted November 17 The screws are partly under the bogies, but its easy to get a screwdriver through the bogie and get the screws out. Once the screws are out the shell just lifts off. It dosent come completely off as theres wires attached to it for the lighting but theres enough give to place the body by the side of the loco whislt putting the decoder in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
