Wagons Stored at Seaforth Docks, Liverpool

[TangerineWizards]

There have been some TDA bogie tankers stored at Seaforth Docks, Liverpool for some time now.
 

Firstly, does anyone know what they were used for and where before storage? 

 

One arrived on a low loader last week and was placed with the others. It looks as though it has had a refurb as the under frame appeared clean/painted.

 

Also the Cargowagons from Ford that had been stored at Ellesmere Port have appeared in the cripple siding near Strand Road Level Crossing in the site. Were these moved into the docks by the Class 20 which did the move to Garston? Any idea why it’s there? 
 

Thanks in advance.

[lankyphil]

They were only being stored for a day or two at most, John Dickinson's Heavy Haulage wagons (escorted by an RSS van) were coming in and removing them two at a time. I assumed that they were going for scrap, but as you say, they've reappeared with freshly painted parts all over the underframe, suggesting some sort of overhaul somewhere.

 

The 4w Cargowaggons also suffered the same fate, being roaded away, 3 at a time. They've only just appeared last week so I cant comment on their movements too much.

 

They are all up in the cripples siding though, so when the tanks started coming back last week , there was a very bemused Dickinson's driver scratching his wondering where he was going to unload the second TDA, as the siding already had 3x Cargowaggons and a TDA in it!

Edited November 4, 2019 by lankyphil

[petethemole]

I observed a TDA on low loader in the centre of Eastleigh last Thursday. It was heading for the M3. The bogies were clean and all the info panels were freshly painted but the tank body was filthy.

[Simon Bendall]

13 hours ago, TangerineWizards said:

There have been some TDA bogie tankers stored at Seaforth Docks, Liverpool for some time now.

Firstly, does anyone know what they were used for and where before storage? 

 

They were used for the Lindsey-Colnbrook aviation fuel, went off hire last autumn when the working switched to Grain with new build TEAs.

[lankyphil]

The Cargowaggons may be on their way back from overhaul? I passed on that was travelling NB on the M57 this afternoon and there were 4 stabled on the cripples siding this evening as I finished (only 3 this morning).

 

As I was leaving the docks tonight, I got stuck at the new Regent Road LC, which was occupied by a rake of TDAs, awaiting the Line Clear from Sandhills or Manchester to climb the branch. A quick check of RTT shows it to be heading to Carlisle Kingmoor. https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O55339/2019-11-04/detailed (Couldn't see the loco). It's described as an NR aggregates working, but it was definitely TDAs!

[Fat Controller]

I wonder if the Cargowaggons were some of the ones made redundant by Ford's decision to close the Bridgend plant? Some have been sold to CELSA for use as billet carriers, but that still leaves quite a few.

[beast66606]

10 of the stored TDAs were taken to Carlisle today with 56103 providing the power.

Edited November 4, 2019 by beast66606

[TangerineWizards]

Very interesting, thanks for the replies.

 

Images on Flickr suggests 56103 went in to the docks with a rake of JNA boxes and left with the TDA's attached to the rear of the JNA.

[TangerineWizards]

Just as an update to this (for those interested) - there are now 8 of the Ford wagons at Seaforth, with some stored on the siding previously used by the TDAs.

 

Lots of activity on the docks over the weekend as well. Work is underway to replace track near the crossing at Strand Road. 66778 was on the Biomass, 60036 stabled near the crossing and 66006 waiting in the container terminal for its train to be loaded.