Which Hornby Locos have 21 pin DCC Sockets?

[Tallpaul69]

Hi All,

Is there anywhere / does anyone have a list of which Hornby Locos have 21 pin sockets fitted?

 

Does "DCC ready" on a Hornby box mean an 8 pin socket? 

 

Many thanks

Paul

[Andy W]

No, DCC ready doesn't only mean 8-pin sockets with Hornby. Smaller models, such as the two different Pecketts and the Ruston, have 6 pin sockets. But I'm struggling to think of a 21-pin socketed Hornby model.

[RFS]

Hornby have used 21-pin sockets in those locos fitted with sound. Schools class is one example, but non-sound versions of this loco have 8-pin sockets. 

 

If the model is current, one easy way to check is the Hatton's website as they say what type of DCC socket the loco has. 

Edited November 6, 2019 by RFS

[RAF96]

Hornby pre-TTS sound locos used 21-pin sockets as these were for ESU decoders. These locos are now obsolete since TTS with its 8-pin socket became their only sound product range.

 

As stated Hornby DCC Ready locos may have 4, 6  or 8-pin sockets. Pendolino was a special case and had a 7-pin decoder.

Edited November 6, 2019 by RAF96

[ellocoloco]

15 hours ago, RAF96 said:

These locos are now obsolete since TTS with its 8-pin socket became their only sound product range.

 

Thats an interesting point as the Hornby Int'l range has been upgraded to 21pin sockets over the last few years and the majority in the current Spring/Summer catalogue have the 21pin set up.

 

By implication, it suggests that Hornby will not be rolling out the TTS offering to the International Brands, which is surprising as this could be seen as a relatively simple money spinner..........

[34theletterbetweenB&D]

29 minutes ago, ellocoloco said:

...By implication, it suggests that Hornby will not be rolling out the TTS offering to the International Brands, which is surprising as this could be seen as a relatively simple money spinner..........

More sophisticated market where the competition have long established the price to pay for a superior decoder and sound package? Not in Hornby's interest to rock that boat, if it is higher margin.

[RAF96]

10 hours ago, Richard Croft said:

This means any Hornby model with XS at the end of the code should be 21 pin, these will probably be sound fitted unless the decoders have been removed. They usually have smaller pcb’s making speaker upgrades easier.

 

Richard

 

Hornby used mostly v3.5 ESU sound chips but some v4.0 so be aware there may be 100 ohm or 8 ohm speakers fitted to XS suffix models.

[ellocoloco]

18 hours ago, Richard Croft said:

This means any Hornby model with XS at the end of the code should be 21 pin

 

Maybe.............I have an Electrotren ALCo from 2008 with an 8pin socket and Loksound. This model was updated in 2015 to include 21pin socket.  I would have thought the OO range would be internally similar until Hornby abandoned ESU for British outline and went the TTS route.

 

 

[JohnDMJ]

When you say '21 Pin', do you mean MTC21 (NEM 660) or PluX22 (NEM 668)?

 

Both have fully 22 pins but with one location (not the same) used for an index to set the correct orientation of the decoder, so both, effectively, 21 pin.

[melmerby]

21 pin is almost invariably MTC 21.

On 07/11/2019 at 09:03, ellocoloco said:

 

Thats an interesting point as the Hornby Int'l range has been upgraded to 21pin sockets over the last few years and the majority in the current Spring/Summer catalogue have the 21pin set up.

 

By implication, it suggests that Hornby will not be rolling out the TTS offering to the International Brands, which is surprising as this could be seen as a relatively simple money spinner..........

21 MTC was declared obsolescent years ago, so hardly an "upgrade" They should be Plux or NeXt

 

I have never seen a Plux 22 called a 21 pin decoder!