Stoker Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Just now, LBRJ said: That is the way I would ( and have occasionally) laid model corrugated sheets; and I have laid/mended more than a few of the real thing over the years. To my eyes, the overlap on side by side sheets is barely visible at full size*, but something like half an inch maybe at the top/bottom over lap. *on some older, mossy roofs one has to look quite carefully for the join, just to make sure you are attacking the right sheet to start with - I know this well Agreed, it really isn't visible at distance. Far more noticeable is colour variation of sheets and gaps, where differing materials and weather occlusion create natural highlights. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhysb Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 Thanks for the feedback guys. I wanted to lay the slaters sheet on boards as close to the real thing to try and create proper definition and be as real as possible. On the photo you can really see the individual sheets of cladding: 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhysb Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 On the test piece I have tried two different types of weathering: Normal Heavy weathered: And with moss and foliage weathering: 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoker Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Just now, Rhysb said: Thanks for the feedback guys. I wanted to lay the slaters sheet on boards as close to the real thing to try and create proper definition and be as real as possible. On the photo you can really see the individual sheets of cladding: I know this building, it's Treviscoe rotary. The large structure in front is the linhay, the smaller structure with the almost white roof in behind it is the dryer. Notice how although the panel gaps are visible on the structure in the foreground, they are invisible on the newer roof in the background. The photo is a low resolution zoom of a drone image, but I strongly suspect the reason the panel lines are so visible is due to moss growing in the gaps. The same thing happened to Parkandillack New Buell: You can see how on some parts of the roof the panel lines are nearly invisible, while in other areas they're highlighted by moss and weather staining. Tom Johnson has proven very well that the effect can be created entirely with weathering on his HO scale Logansport and Indiana Northern layout. This building is a completely unmodified Walthers Cornerstone kit (I know because I own the same kit) and the only physical panel lines it has are the horizontal. The illusion of individual panels and vertical laps was created by Tom's process of weathering each panel individually before going on to the next, and highlighting the joints with a carefully applied pinwash. 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhysb Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 Thanks Stoker. I have started two new samples which I should be able to share over the weekend. One like you said with flat sheet and using weathering and one recommended by Ian (temeraire) where I have scored the sheets then use a wash to pick out the score lines as on his layout Tidworth. thanks Rhys 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rhysb Posted February 6, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2020 I’m sure your all mega bored of CDA wagons now but I have a lot to weather and prepare!! A few more completed tonight: 1. With a very heavy weathering (so much so they have wiped the logos and labels): 2. With some rust streaks under the clay: 3. Finally a light weathering: More to do!!! Thanks Rhys 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhysb Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 So a stormy day meant nothing more than trying to finish weathering off Cda wagons and more importantly finishing the first segment of the linhay. As said before there will be 3 inserts into the main building itself. This will allow the fiddle yard to sit behind with more room. I have added some internal details that will hardly ever be seen unless looking through the doors from track level but nice to know the detail is there! I have spent all night finishing off the canopy, ramp and storeroom. More pics to follow: Thanks Rhys 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhysb Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 Canopy section done!! Plastikote sealer ready to go! Now just two more to make!! Thanks Rhys 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhysb Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 Apologies for the lack of activity on here recently but with the purchase of a new home layout Leighford (link below) my time has been taken to getting that in order. Attention will shortly return back to the linhay! Another something I have been working on is weathering some loco's and coaches for use primarily on Porthleven but also the home layout Leighford. I undertook a big project weathering some cross country 47/4 - 47/8 hauled mk2's and these may make an appearance on Porthleven as a Saturday summer special or something along those lines. More details on this on my Leighford Thread. I managed to get a few RR mk1's also done for some interesting passenger rakes into Porthleven too: Heavily weathered hard working Mk1's: The first shows I have tried to replicate some roof panels being fixed and plated! Overall view. Stay Safe Thanks 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhysb Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 And now for some St Blazey 37 action! Managed to get the limited edition Mt Fuji 37. This was a little late at getting to Laira and St Blazey not until around 1993/94 but it certainly was there and worked a lot on Cornwall on the clay so I just had to have it for the layout so I have applied rule 1 modelling licence and brought it forward a few years! Hard working loco needed a heavy weather so with inspiration from James Makin's brilliant 37's I set about it! First was the initial weathering and lighter tones of dirt and rust. I achieve this by firstly spraying with a coat of matt varnish from Montana, then apply a layer of basalt colour again from Montana and then dry brush roof dirt and sleeper grime from Railmatch. Finally I use a light rust enamel colour from Humbrol: This is then left to fully harden for at least 48 hours. Next I come back with another liberal wash of rail match paints which I wipe off after applying to build up that second layer of grime: Finally as this loco has had a tough life some darker rust spots are put in place to show the deeper rust over the top of the previous lighter rust shades: This is then left to harden again for another 48 hours before a good coat of matt varnish from Montana. Here is the final completed loco in the yard at Leighford!: Im absolutely over the moon with the result and to date probably my best weathered loco! Cant wait to see her in front of some CDA's! She will also have dutys on the silver bullets on the home layout! Thanks for now! Stay safe! 16 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Really like the looks of this project - it’s got a good feel about it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 On 31/01/2020 at 20:03, CKPR said: Here's the cover and first two pages of the 1967 'Porthleven' layout - as the files are rather large, let me know of you want the other six pages. Now that seriously takes me back to what must be my very first interest in model railways. I can remember looking at the layout over and over and over again as a child. Did it re-appear in a later Railway Modeller? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlebah Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 @Rhysb looking good so far. Nice weathering on the class 37. I'm looking forward to seeing how this project evolves. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Indomitable026 said: Now that seriously takes me back to what must be my very first interest in model railways. I can remember looking at the layout over and over and over again as a child. Did it re-appear in a later Railway Modeller? Pretty much the same here - I still like reading this article. As far as I know, 'Porthleven' was extended but never again appeared in print and the next article by Dave Howsham was on 'Howley Town' , which featured in RM May-July 1976 - it was an interesting concept (layout on a bookcase) but not a patch on the original 'Porthleven. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 52 minutes ago, CKPR said: Pretty much the same here - I still like reading this article. As far as I know, 'Porthleven' was extended but never again appeared in print and the next article by Dave Howsham was on 'Howley Town' , which featured in RM May-July 1976 - it was an interesting concept (layout on a bookcase) but not a patch on the original 'Porthleven. Well thanks for the memory. I’ve just ordered one off the internet as the original is long gone... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhysb Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 So a bit of sunshine and a bit of lockdown (or maybe a lot of lockdown) and some boards appear!! more to follow: thanks Rhys 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhysb Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 Good Morning all, Hope your all still well as we near "maybe" the end of lockdown! During the last few weeks I have been doing 2 projects on Porthleven. The Linhay project is coming along and the other 3 modules are built and awaiting to be joined together before the roof goes on! Will post an update on that when I can. Secondly the main project has been track laying on the first two boards. This is the 10ft section with the Linhay, the rear fiddle yard and the pointwork for access to the china clay area. This is the biggest bit of track laying as the other two boards are just the single branch into the harbour and headshunt for this area. Anyway firstly all the boards are finished being primed and the bolts etc added. Awaiting the alignment dowels from Dave to arrive! So firstly even though I have laid out the track plan I wanted to do a little fettling to make sure everything is in the right place! The first linhay module is just showing where the Linhay will start. The fullsize one is about 3.5ft long in total (small for a linhay) but this shows the left hand point of it as you look at the layout: The left hand line is the branch line coming in from the fiddle yard Final track laying begins! My usual method of 4mm cork glued with Modpodge matt. Only a slight addition is the headshunt at the bottom of the picture. This will be mainly overgrown but is there as a storage siding for some VDA's waiting to be taken back to Culdrose or a few wagons dumped while some shunting takes place. The Linhay area completed: And finally pretty much all the track laying in this area done! The branch line as you can see vears off to the left to give the illusion its going behind the Linhay area. The curve back to the right to the fiddle yard will be hidden by the road bridge and tree's etc: Really pleased with the Bullhead track too. Fairly easy to lay and I think the detail is excellent: Anyway back to the Linhay! Thanks Rhys 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhysb Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 So as promised an update on the Linhay. When I started the building of it I knew two things: 1. It would have to be reduced in scale size as it’s a model railway! 2. Even so it would be a massive building! So here it is ready to be put onto the layout. This is about a 4 month build to this point. It does have a full interior with China clay piles so it should provide some interest when looking through the doors. I have used 3 of the scalescenes loading docks built to about 50% to just provide a base then I have used 2mm mounting board to build the awnings, roof etc. Then slaters corrugated sheets as the roofing cladding. I’m not looking forward to cladding and weathering that roof! 14 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhysb Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 And here it is in its rough position on the layout. The side cladding has been added. I have Sprayed the slaters sheets with Montana spray paint and then weathered using a black acrylic wash first, a brown enamel second then an olive green colour. All painted on then removed with paper towel leaving a streaking effect as if the water runs down. Then moss is added with WS fine turf. More slaters sheets ordered for the roof! thanks Rhys 14 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted June 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2020 Are we going to see over the backscene? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhysb Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, PaulRhB said: Are we going to see over the backscene? It’s only 13” high Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitbull1845 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 55 minutes ago, Rhysb said: It’s only 13” high So thats a no for me then 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melangoose Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Rhysb said: And here it is in its rough position on the layout. The side cladding has been added. I have Sprayed the slaters sheets with Montana spray paint and then weathered using a black acrylic wash first, a brown enamel second then an olive green colour. All painted on then removed with paper towel leaving a streaking effect as if the water runs down. Then moss is added with WS fine turf. More slaters sheets ordered for the roof! thanks Rhys Looking good Rhys, that is some structure that you are building. Keep up the good work. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoker Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Looks about right for one of the smaller stores. You may be interested to know the small one at Kernick, on which the scalescenes was based, was originally half the size, it was doubled in I think the mid 60s. There was also a really tiny linhay on the Goonbarrow branch which I think was only about 100 feet or so in length. It was fed by ECC's 1939 vintage Rockhill rotary dryer. Fun fact, during the 1978 coal strikes, Rockhill was prepped to dry peat from Bodmin Moor to fuel Drinnick power plant! 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted June 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2020 Apologies - tangential posting. @Stoker presumably there were inbound coal wagons / trains to each of the dries, something not often modelled. How much coal would be needed to run an average size plant? Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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