RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2019 If Hornby wanted to make a 100 year statement, the obvious ones that appeal to all are already there.., Mallard, Scotsman & HST. There is one gap in the archives that might shout quite loud... Rocket. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, adb968008 said: If Hornby wanted to make a 100 year statement, the obvious ones that appeal to all are already there.., Mallard, Scotsman & HST. Depending on how they tooled it, they had new tooling for the slide-door Mk3s so perhaps a new tooled set of Mk3s for the HST power cars? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paftrain Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I would just like them to deliver my blue livery original Merchant Navy that I pre-ordered nearly two years ago. 4 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Amand said: Hornby have already given us the web address for the new announcements: https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2020.html No they haven't, anyone can just keep changing the last two digits and you'll get a similar result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I'd just love to see the artwork on the outer sleeves of the boxes go retro...! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 hours ago, adb968008 said: If Hornby wanted to make a 100 year statement, the obvious ones that appeal to all are already there.., Mallard, Scotsman & HST. There is one gap in the archives that might shout quite loud... Rocket. Smokey Joe? A more accurate one.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I predict a reproduction of the first clockwork trainset to capture the last gasp of the grey pound. probably in some sort of presentation case covered in leather, with gold-leaf embossed lettering, an official history of the company and a lifetime pass to Hornbyworld or whatever it's called in Margate. Probably priced at four figures to the left of the decimal point. And having urinated this year's development budget way up the wall on the commemorative gift set, the normal range will comprise half a dozen re-liveries of existing toolings. There again, I am a cynic modeller. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR-fan Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I will be extremely surprised if any new tooling. Hornby needs to be on the black side of the ledger before any concerted effort to introduce new models. Given the many retooled or newly tooled models over the last few years, I can see more reliveries and new cab numbers. Perhaps more of those oddball collections of slowly moving wharehouse stock bundled into a box at a slightly reduced pricing on full retail. More of the same seems my impression of what to anticipate on January 6th. I will wait until the items appear on the pre-owned listings. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted November 13, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, GWR-fan said: I will be extremely surprised if any new tooling. Hornby needs to be on the black side of the ledger before any concerted effort to introduce new models. Given the many retooled or newly tooled models over the last few years, I can see more reliveries and new cab numbers. Perhaps more of those oddball collections of slowly moving wharehouse stock bundled into a box at a slightly reduced pricing on full retail. More of the same seems my impression of what to anticipate on January 6th. I will wait until the items appear on the pre-owned listings. I doubt that will be the main thrust of their 100 year celebration. I’m pretty sure SK has stated they have “exciting plans” for 2020. it would seem to be new tooling of locos “x” as well as new liveries for existing models. Toplight carriages anyone? Lol Edited November 13, 2019 by Neal Ball Typo 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 3 hours ago, GWR-fan said: I will be extremely surprised if any new tooling. Why would Hornby not announce any newly tooled items? They've been in worse financial situations before and still announce a minimum of 6 newly tooled items year after year. Seriously doubt Hornby will have a boring 2020. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR-fan Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Apart from a few notable exceptions, a lot of recently tooled items over the last several years have finished up in firesales or bundled together to reduce stock. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, GWR-fan said: Apart from a few notable exceptions, a lot of recently tooled items over the last several years have finished up in firesales or bundled together to reduce stock. I hate to say it, but they have all been steam. and if you look at other manufacturers, their sell offs were steam.. 47xx, 04 and Bachmanns discounts are steam... Not many modern image* classes end in the bargain bins of late. i get regular emails containing lists of bargain plain steam black locomotives. The good thing about modern image is modernity... modellers want today... which means when new TOCs emerge and the vinyls change, the previous model becomes disposable giving the model railway company another bite at the cherry... * modern image, Post y2k.. Edited November 13, 2019 by adb968008 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 13, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2019 9 hours ago, Amand said: Hornby have already given us the web address for the new announcements: https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2020.html Not anymore 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, MGR Hooper! said: Isn't it their 100 year anniversary or something? Not really, the "Hornby" that started marketing tinplate trains in 1920 died when it was absorbed by Tri-ang in 1964 and not much that was Hornby Dublo was carried across to Triang-Hornby. The best that might be considered in anniversary tems is that the present company might be said to have hit the 70 years mark that commemorates the production of a train set for Marks and Spencer to sell at Christmas 1950 by Rovex. The company that now trades as "Hornby" is even more recent as it was formed in 1972 after the "Tri-ang" name became unavailable due to the collapse of the Lines Brother conglomerate, so that would give a 50th anniversary in 2022! The infatuation with Old Hornby that SK has is on a par with the recent advertising slogan "Vauxhall, a British Brand since 1903"*. In other words, a somewhat stretched association. * Vauxhall Motors, formed in 1903, bought by General Motors in 1925, bought by Groupe PSA in 2017. Edited November 13, 2019 by Hroth repetition 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Hmmm... there is not much that happened in 1920 that would equate to making a nice 100th anniversary set. H class in SECR grey and a dance hall brake? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) A number of high street “quintessentially british” brands that everyones knows, but “used to be” popular reach 100 years have gone pop soon after... They don't just need to celebrate history, they need to make a statement to the future too, that turns heads, not just warms hearts. Edited November 13, 2019 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerzilla Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I'm still holding out for an SR W Class tank. I doubt we'll ever see one. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, rogerzilla said: I'm still holding out for an SR W Class tank. I doubt we'll ever see one. I saw one on saturday at Tolworth... Golden Arrow kit, on a Hornby 8f chassis ;-) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerzilla Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 They're usually on an N chassis with an added rear bogie, aren't they? I thought about buying the kit but there's quite a lot of work involved in the conversion, including reprofiling the cylinders. Also, cheap Bachmann "N" chassis don't really exist so it could be a £200 bodge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR-fan Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Looking back fifty odd years or so (100 years seems more like an advertising wishlist), what is there to celebrate in Hornby's history? Instead of looking backwards to history, Hornby should be celebrating the future with something more current. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Still holding out for an airsmooth Merchant Navy, General Steam Navigation in late BR livery coupled with a cut down tender. And maybe the rumoured Q class. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didcot Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 A 21st Century Saint to compliment at 21st Century Saint (well almost)! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, didcot said: A 21st Century Saint to compliment at 21st Century Saint (well almost)! Looking at your username, your not biased are you ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, GWR-fan said: Looking back fifty odd years or so (100 years seems more like an advertising wishlist), what is there to celebrate in Hornby's history? Instead of looking backwards to history, Hornby should be celebrating the future with something more current. ... so I did a recent half term trip across the country with my little one... London to Inverness, to Edinburgh, York, Leeds, Manchester, Crewe, Cardiff and back to London. ignoring classes already modelled, and stuff from pre-2000.. the memories in my head are.. classes 175/185/195 (and with it the identical 331) / Electrostar. of these: 185/195/331 cover all the North East, North West. Electrostar covers all the South East, Anglia and GWR Electrified lines, Plus LMR upto Milton Keynes, 175 covers Wales, Midlands and Manchester. and as outsider the 319/768/799 has in its life covered all the South East, LMR upto Carnforth, southern MML and ECML and will eventually cover GWML parts of wales. if 4 models were Selected from the above you could appeal to just about every modeller south of Scotland* and have 30 years worth of new liveries. whilst the Scottish may feel aggrieved at my result.. they actually dont have that much new, but have been catered for with 156/158/170/68/Mk5/92& HST which pretty much covers their entirety. if I had influence, it would be Electrostar, and the 195/331- I get both an EMU and a DMU from the same tooling, and finally the 185.. they are everywhere. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, adb968008 said: I saw one on saturday at Tolworth... Golden Arrow kit, on a Hornby 8f chassis ;-) Whoever built that couldn't tell their Z from their W ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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