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Hornby 2020 range "reveal date" = 6th Jan

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18 minutes ago, gc4946 said:

I suspected any celebratory event would be in Kent. 

They might name another Javelin or name an Electrostar instead with that being its launch model for the EMU.

If something special really has to be done maybe Simon Kohler and his entourage could travel on a Merseyrail service from Liverpool Central to Maghull to mark Frank Hornby's places of birth and death.

There would be a launch ceremony for an all-new model of a class 86 86411 Frank Hornby and possibly a bonus announcement of a class 507 EMU at Maghull

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9 minutes ago, gc4946 said:

If something special really has to be done maybe Simon Kohler and his entourage could travel on a Merseyrail service from Liverpool Central to Maghull to mark Frank Hornby's places of birth and death.

There would be a launch ceremony for an all-new model of a class 86 86411 Frank Hornby and possibly a bonus announcement of a class 507 EMU at Maghull

 

More sensible to announce a 503, they've got the last unit of those in their shed at Margate!

 

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28 minutes ago, gc4946 said:

If something special really has to be done maybe Simon Kohler and his entourage could travel on a Merseyrail service from Liverpool Central to Maghull to mark Frank Hornby's places of birth and death.

There would be a launch ceremony for an all-new model of a class 86 86411 Frank Hornby and possibly a bonus announcement of a class 507 EMU at Maghull

 

They could even visit the Frank Hornby Heritage Centre in Maghull. Maybe lunch in the Frank Hornby pub in the same town?

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36 minutes ago, gc4946 said:

Hornby arranged for an HST power car painted in their colours some years ago (source: Wikimedia)

 

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hornby_HST_43087-02.jpg

 

Maybe a wrap-round EMU this time?

Cut backs.. less is more, they just stuck a sticker on a 395...

https://hornbymagazine.keypublishing.com/2019/06/10/Hornby-visitor-centre-class-395/

 

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People keep mentioning think 'out of the box' and I have just realised that this could be a launch of eco packaging where there is no box?  I know this could be true as I have just seen the tealeaves in the bottom of my 'drying out for using as scenics' bowl I keep in the downstairs bog.

Alternatively, it could just be a move away from plastics?

G. Reta (AKA Sharon). 

 

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Alternatively (and I suspect probably) it could be nothing to do with packaging whatsoever, and is a phrase being used to introduce something new and innovative to the hobby.

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I think they will stay with 4mm but make all models available with EM wheels. They then do a deal with Peco/EM soc to produce a full range of trackwork. Just imagine EM set track.......

 

Keith

Ps but also wishing  for more Southern EMUs

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6 hours ago, mdvle said:

 

I would guess they don't, for the simple reason Hornby effectively have no presence in North America - the well time release of the Big Boy being an exception (and benefiting from the total mishandling of the event by their biggest competitor).

 

For Hornby HO is effectively Europe, and as per the half-year report Hornby is a minor player in Europe.

I travel extensively in North America and have seen lots of Hornby products, both English outline, Rivarossi and other lines on sale there.

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A full steampunk range with working lasers on the trains, dry ice machines and zeppelin drones? 

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27 minutes ago, KeithHC said:

I think they will stay with 4mm but make all models available with EM wheels. They then do a deal with Peco/EM soc to produce a full range of trackwork. Just imagine EM set track.......

 

Starting with 3rd/4th Radius curves, 3rd Radius points and standard short and double short straights.

 

Introduced by a Flying Scotsman trainset with an oval of track/Trackpack A (EM)!  :rofl:

 

(Some hapless marketing droid will ask, "can we do an adaptor to connect the new track to our current range???")

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7 hours ago, mdvle said:

 

I would guess that the new Hornby sliding door Mk3 would be a better starting point for a better HST Mk3 than the Oxford stuff.

 

Huh? But the Hornby Mk3SD is from the Oxford Rail Mk3 tooling... Sorry not to single you out, but I find it hysterical that the Oxford Mk3 was slaughtered on here, but put a red badge on it and it's like. Caw that's great! 

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1 hour ago, Foden said:

Alternatively (and I suspect probably) it could be nothing to do with packaging whatsoever, and is a phrase being used to introduce something new and innovative to the hobby.

 

...so you're saying its not literally 'out of the box' but figuratively 'out of the box' where the box is the norm and to come out of that would mean to  "think imaginatively using new ideas instead of traditional or expected ideas"

 

That's the reintroduction of TT3 knocked on the head then...

 

....how about P6 a brand new scale based on 6mm to the foot...(can you see how easy the maths is going to be already)...everyone starts with one scale, one gauge and one standard...

 

A/box

(ps I'm baggsying the term P6 as well)

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It would be nice if they produced their newly-revamped range of plank wagons in a range of company liveries, and not just POs. I'd suggest LNER, LMS, LBSCR, MR, and SECR. The three plank in particular is rather lovely now without the massive couplers. Another pre-group brakevan wouldn't go amiss- preferably the NER birdcage but I think an LBSCR or SECR one is more likely.

 

I suspect one of Hornby's older products will be retooled. I'm gonna guess it'll be either the 2721 or the J52 which haven't appeared in the range for a while.

 

A small useful 0-6-0 will probably be announced. Hopefully a J21 but they might surprise us with a LNWR or L&Y design. Non-Midland derived LMS 0-6-0s are very thin on the ground.

 

There will be at least two big-ticket steam locomotives, one of which is likely to be a retool, probably the D49 to follow the upgraded B17. They've thoroughly mined the Pacific well so maybe something like an LSWR T3?

 

As for diesels and modern image, there have been plenty of new trains introduced over the last couple of years that they could pick from. 

 

I hope I'm surprised! There has been a lot of duplication of relatively recent models (Duchess, Lord Nelson etc) and it's notable that they haven't sold particularly well and have been heavily discounted. Hornby would be wise to avoid that this time around.

 

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I like my old J52, even though I know it's all wrong.  I painted the red injectors brass though, as they made it very toy-like. I know the preserved one has red injectors but photos suggest this wasn't universal.

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This year it’s the 2020 Olympics.

 

What a great commercial opportunity.

Hornby can’t miss out on this huge event.

 

 

 

Ron

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Just a reminder of what Simon Kohler said in the teaser video linked to elsewhere on here.

 

"I want you to clear your minds.

I want you to forget any preconceptions of what model railways is all about.

I want you to think outside the box."

 

 

What are model railways all about?
That will probably be different for each one of us.

Now throw that all away..............

 

 

 

Ron

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I was thinking about the APT-P the other day being quite iconic model, so I’m wondering if a re-tool of that ( I’m sorry if it’s been mentioned already , I’ve only just found the thread) 

 

I always look forward to product announcements from manufacturers so it’ll be interesting to see what’s being made...

 

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4 minutes ago, Ron Ron Ron said:

Just a reminder of what Simon Kohler said in the teaser video linked to elsewhere on here.

 

"I want you to clear your minds.

I want you to forget any preconceptions of what model railways is all about.

I want you to think outside the box."

 

 

What are model railways all about?
That will probably be different for each one of us.

Now throw that all away..............

 

 

 

Ron

 

Having fun surely!

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13 minutes ago, Ron Ron Ron said:

This year it’s the 2020 Olympics.

 

What a great commercial opportunity.

Hornby can’t miss out on this huge event.

 

 

 

Ron

 A range of Japanese trains in OO, to reach the shops in early 2021. That will sell well all over the world, not.

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If of 3ft 6in prototypes, they would be more accurate gauge/scale-wise than either HO or the Japanese's preferred scale of 1:80 for 16.5mm track... But perhaps attention should be focused on British 3ft 6in prototypes - there were only a few non-tram examples, but as they could use 16.5mm track (and be more accurate scale-wise with it than standard gauge prototypes!) this could be viable as they would not require special equipment.

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Surely the future for Hornby is Broad Gauge? 4mm scale on 28.1mm track! ;)

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2 hours ago, 159220 said:

 

Huh? But the Hornby Mk3SD is from the Oxford Rail Mk3 tooling... Sorry not to single you out, but I find it hysterical that the Oxford Mk3 was slaughtered on here, but put a red badge on it and it's like. Caw that's great! 


No it is not... The Hornby Mk3SD is purely a Hornby product and has nothing to do with Oxford Rail.

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2 hours ago, nathan70000 said:

...suspect one of Hornby's older products will be retooled...

For those of us perfectly happy with our model railway the way it is, and no need to exit our particular box, I certainly hope so. My money is on the one H-D loco I envied in my childhood, the 8F: that was the one eight coupled heavy then available in OO, Triang didn't have such a thing. The current model is well off the pace, and Hornby have demonstrated technique to produce a heavy near all metal body model: which would be a good demonstration of progress.

 

1 hour ago, rogerzilla said:

I like my old J52, even though I know it's all wrong.  I painted the red injectors brass though, as they made it very toy-like. I know the preserved one has red injectors but photos suggest this wasn't universal.

I like my little 'humpy' tank too, especially as it has the correct wheelbase Bachmann pannier mechanism in it for better running. Haven't rearranged the splashers to match, too lazy by far. It runs well, looks the part...

 

9 minutes ago, MrTea said:

Surely the future for Hornby is Broad Gauge? 4mm scale on 28.1mm track! 

Worked so well for the Great Western after all. For compactness needs to be 2mm/ft, and thus NBG.:D

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3 hours ago, 159220 said:

 

Huh? But the Hornby Mk3SD is from the Oxford Rail Mk3 tooling... Sorry not to single you out, but I find it hysterical that the Oxford Mk3 was slaughtered on here, but put a red badge on it and it's like. Caw that's great! 


Absolute poppycock, nothing at all to do with Oxford’s Mk3...

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