johnofwessex Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Is the only 009 track avalible in the UK Peco or are there others? If so what and where do you get it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DIW Posted November 16, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2019 There's the Tillig H0e range of track (same gauge 9mm as 009). It appears to be available from 5 retailers in mainland UK, including Golden Valley Hobbies, Marno and DCC Concepts according to this map of retailers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjp23480 Posted November 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) Roco do narrow gauge track, sold by Gauge master. Tillig also do some track, used to be stocked by International Models in South Wales, not sure if they are still going or not. It is also available through Conrad UK. Steve Edited November 16, 2019 by sjp23480 Correction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 There is also Bemo HOe track, which is available from some suppliers in the UK, but it is NOT cheap!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, sjp23480 said: Roco do narrow gauge track, sold by Gauge master. Tillig also do some track, used to be stocked by International Models in South Wales, not sure if they are still going or not. It is also available through Conrad UK. Steve Unfortunately International Models were sold to a couple in Scotland who had no knowledge of retail and ran the name into the ground. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnofwessex Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 Thank you How does they compare with PECO quality wise - I dont think I will need a lot so within reason cost isnt an issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, johnofwessex said: Thank you How does they compare with PECO quality wise - I dont think I will need a lot so within reason cost isnt an issue I am well out of date, as it is over ten years ago that I modelled in 009. But at the time, Peco was a lot more robust than Bemo and Tillig (have no experience of Roco), and appearance was much the same - perhaps a bit finer than Peco, but not so much as to justify the big difference in price. Strangely, to my eyes anyway, the Tillig track in HOe looked "continental" - I can't explain why! PS - I never finished the layout, and scrapped it, so cannot comment on reliability. Edited November 17, 2019 by Mike Storey added PS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangoOscarMike Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Hello. I've just blundered into this thread as I roam around RMWeb. But I think it's worth mentioning that the Tillig range includes three-rail dual-gauge HO / HOe track, which I assume works fine as 00 / 009. I find the idea very tempting, but for me now is not the time. Cheers Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DIW Posted November 18, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, TangoOscarMike said: Hello. I've just blundered into this thread as I roam around RMWeb. But I think it's worth mentioning that the Tillig range includes three-rail dual-gauge HO / HOe track, which I assume works fine as 00 / 009. I find the idea very tempting, but for me now is not the time. Cheers Tom Indeed it does! The dual gauge track appears on the first page when looking for the Tillig 009 (H0e) stuff, which I why my link (hopefully) goes to page 2 where the single gauge products are shown. I had briefly considered a dual H0/H0m layout some time ago; the considerations of time kicked in long before the realities of cost needed to be faced! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangoOscarMike Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Time, cost, energy, space,... but also the nagging fear that it would be a non-stop source of complex derailments and stalling problems! Tempting all the same... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Tilling is HOe track based on Continental practice, it is similar to Peco Mainline track but as mentioned not as robust. It uses code 83 rail and Peco code 80. Roco do flexible track some of which is rather strange looking stuff. They also do set track with 10.5ins radius which is slightly better than Peco's 9ins if you want something less sharp. Roco's points however are crude compared to the other two. Again code 83. Bemo track is ok but expensive. Renember that the European market is much bigger than ours so their stuff will reflect their practice not British. Peco's Crazytrack range caters for British NG. If you are doing modern 750/760mm European practice then Peco Mainline and Tillig are both very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchinuk Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 16/11/2019 at 19:56, johnofwessex said: Is the only 009 track avalible in the UK Peco or are there others? If so what and where do you get it I'm new here and newly returned to railway modelling, however I have found that the 2mm Association sell rail and sleepers suitable for 9mm gauge track (though as you assemble it the gauge is really up to you). Unfortunately, you have to be a member to buy the products. Products I hope this helps. jh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted January 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, jchinuk said: I'm new here and newly returned to railway modelling, however I have found that the 2mm Association sell rail and sleepers suitable for 9mm gauge track (though as you assemble it the gauge is really up to you). Unfortunately, you have to be a member to buy the products. Products I hope this helps. jh Another source for components (rail etc but the sleepers might be wrong size) would be fiNetrax. As with the 2mm Association, the rail is much finer which could well be an issue with typical 009/HOe wheel flanges. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 If you are going down the handbuilt track way then Peco Code 60 or the 2mm Assoc code 40 are both very good to represent per preservation and some smaller preserved lines (such as industrial 2ft gauge). Be aware, though, that the 2mm sleepers aren't really suitable, a better bet is 3SMR's sleepers for 12mm/TT track cut down. It really depends on what you want to model and how accurate you want it to be, code 80/83 is really too heavy except for modern practice. 009 is a compromise anyhow, being used to represent 2ft to 2ft 6ins gauges so most people just accept it. BTW there is another manufacturer of 9mm narrow gauge track, Shinohara, though I've never tried it. If you are after sharp curved points then they are the ones, 150mm/6 inch! Scalelink stock it: https://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog/Shinohara_Track___Pointwork__HOn2_5_.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chameleon Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I used a combination of track on our layout. Peco mainline points, Tillig plain track and even an N gauge single slip. Combining the different makes is a little problematic, the rail height is close enough not to cause problems (though a little judicious filing will take any edge off the join) the main problem is that Tillig track is flat bottom so needs the edges filed to get compatible fishplates on. the Tillig track has a nice, pre tarnished finish to it but it does make it a to solder to. oh and the slip was code 55 but fitted perfectly and once ballasted one, you don’t even notice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Yes the Tillig code 83 rail has a slightly wider base than Peco code 80 but it's not a major issue and only affects use of the metal rail joiners, the insulated Peco ones fit both. It's easy enough to file the Tillig rail or just use Tillig rail joiners when joining Peco and Tillig rail. I can't say I've had any issues soldering wire to Tillig rail. I also prefer the finish on Tilling rail! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timatheronwood Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 http://www.minitrains.eu/mt-acc.html has track. I have been interested in using it as a replacement for the old eggerbahn track. Any one else used it? Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) I think some people on NGRM have, though beware as they are 5.5inch radius curves so only smaller locos will go round them and you may have coupling problems. Personally I feel that 9 inch should be the minimum radius to aim for unless your prototype had really sharp curves! Edited February 6, 2020 by Hobby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timatheronwood Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Thank you for the warning about the tiny radius. I had been intending to use them for some industrial Tankwagen using 4 wheel locos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 TBH you may be better signing up to NGRM Forum and asking on there, you'll find many more people who have used small radii using 009 locos on there than on here! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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