truffy Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Phil Parker said: What announcement? Just for clarification, the announcement of an announcement on 06.01.2020, indirectly made by Hornby (via Hattons). 7 minutes ago, Phil Parker said: Now, could I suggest that this thread returns to talking about Heljan. Splendid idea! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted November 21, 2019 Administrators Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, truffy said: Just for clarification, the announcement of an announcement on 06.01.2020, indirectly made by Hornby (via Hattons). That's no more embargoed than the date of Christmas Day. What is in the parcels under the tree IS embargoed though. 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzer71 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Could be interesting if they announce a OO gauge Class 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, sulzer71 said: Could be interesting if they announce a OO gauge Class 37 I’ve thought for the last couple of years this might have been on the cards: Hornby have always had a 37; their ancient model has been stuck in Railroad-world for a long time; and there’s been continuous low-level grumbling about the Bachmann super-detailed attempt. And a 37 is a long-term seller, not a one or two year wonder. But back to Heljan: their slow but steady approach to tackling diesels in O gauge has led to impressively comprehensive coverage. Their announcement of a Clayton was the icing on the cake for me. But the next frontier is steam O gauge: Dapol’s Terrier, Hattons’ A3 and A4, and now Darstaed’s Black Five — that’s beginning to look like a haystack in the wind. So I’m guessing Heljan will either build on its WR DMU announcements with something like a Derby Lightweight, 105 or 101 (transition-era equipment with wide coverage); or we’ll see a significant steam announcement. I’m fascinated to see where they’re going next. (And impatiently awaiting my Claytons.) Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzer71 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Fenman said: I’ve thought for the last couple of years this might have been on the cards: Hornby have always had a 37; their ancient model has been stuck in Railroad-world for a long time; and there’s been continuous low-level grumbling about the Bachmann super-detailed attempt. And a 37 is a long-term seller, not a one or two year wonder. But back to Heljan: their slow but steady approach to tackling diesels in O gauge has led to impressively comprehensive coverage. Their announcement of a Clayton was the icing on the cake for me. But the next frontier is steam O gauge: Dapol’s Terrier, Hattons’ A3 and A4, and now Darstaed’s Black Five — that’s beginning to look like a haystack in the wind. So I’m guessing Heljan will either build on its WR DMU announcements with something like a Derby Lightweight, 105 or 101 (transition-era equipment with wide coverage); or we’ll see a significant steam announcement. I’m fascinated to see where they’re going next. (And impatiently awaiting my Claytons.) Paul Fenman have you seen the Accurascale news about them doing a 37? it could be interesting if Heljan announce a 37/4 in OO before Accurascale have had the chance to do one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
61661 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 On 20/11/2019 at 09:52, Erixtar1992 said: Shame Heljan dont sell their returned stock at warley like Bachmann and Dapol, would be good! We do. There are seconds and returns on our stand every year at Warley. And there will be again this year, but you have to be quick to get them as there aren't many (which is a good thing!) and they always fly out. Most of the O gauge returns are cleared out at Telford Guildex, but there will be some at Warley too I'm sure. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Is this a Hornby thread or as the header says a Heljan one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdseyecircus Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I hope it's some rolling stock as there has been quite a number of new loco announcements over the year - and they need something to pull! Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted November 21, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2019 Heljan have just shown their catalogue cover on Facebook: class 33 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Hopefully the 03s are on their way judging by the first post. Also would be good to get an update on the release date of the o gauge split box 37. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 11 hours ago, D1051 said: Quite agree . That said a re run of the A & B tanks would be most welcome .We had the joy of individual wagons to purchase when launched . There after they became only available in a “train pack” with a 33...3 Years on any chances of a re-run ? Over to you Ben Yes a rerun of B tanks in esso livery, even as packs of 3 would be really welcome. I have no need for extra blue pre-tops class 33s that are currently part of a set with these tanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Also a 're run of the o gauge tanks would be welcome, I need another 2 United Molasses tanks... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatloaf Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just seen of facebook they are doing 0 gauge mk2 coaches 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted November 22, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) I need some Heljan Class 47 bogie side frames but I can't get to warley. Terry Edited November 22, 2019 by Trainshed Terry class 47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, meatloaf said: Just seen of facebook they are doing 0 gauge mk2 coaches Given that it's not on the Heljan Facebook page perhaps you would like to be more specific as to where it was seen, and whether it is official or just a rumour. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmporiaSub Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, mdvle said: Given that it's not on the Heljan Facebook page perhaps you would like to be more specific as to where it was seen, and whether it is official or just a rumour. I saw the same post on a Facebook page. it was of a Heljan poster at Warley. Presumably a trade person noted it? References were made to 'spoiler'..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted November 22, 2019 Moderators Share Posted November 22, 2019 There are several announcements, probably public from about 9.30. With full information. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDMJ Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 On 20/11/2019 at 20:07, Phil Parker said: The Hornby announcement will be embargoed when the press and retail trade are told, as it is every year. All sides take these very seriously. Has Hornby hi-jacked a Heljan thread? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) On 20/11/2019 at 09:52, Erixtar1992 said: Shame Heljan dont sell their returned stock at warley like Bachmann and Dapol, would be good! Oh they do... Heljan always have a few nice ones, last year the Mr Jones himself sold me a few class 07’s, 86’s and 27’s, then as he put them in my bag, informed me Heljan were making new 86’s and more 07’s & 27’s... ;-) They are early on my Must Visit list, they aren't number 1, as I was given a tip off of another.. (and it aint Bachmann either), I’ll share whom & what after Ive filled my bag... so Heljan 0930, Accurascale 1015.. ;-) Edited November 22, 2019 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted November 22, 2019 Administrators Share Posted November 22, 2019 I don't think this is embargoed, so take a look at some very impressive factory weathering on a 7mm Class 33. It's a crude cut-out mobile phone shot at the moment, but we'll try to get the loco in front of a proper camera tomorrow. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Info from Facebook Quote **WARLEY 2019 NEWS** Today sees Heljan unveil several new products for OO and O gauge, including new versions of three existing products, a new O gauge steam locomotive and an all-new family of BR coaches for O gauge. Click on the images below for more information or come and see us this weekend on Stand A04 at the Warley National Model Railway Show, NEC Birmingham. New Items - GWR/BR 'Collett Goods' 0-6-0 steam loco O gauge - BR Mk2/Mk2a Coaches in O gauge - BR Class 86/4 and 86/6 Bo-Bo electric OO gauge - Late version Class 33/0 with high intensity headlight OO gauge - GNR/LNER/BR Gresley 'O2' 2-8-0 - new versions with GN cab and tender OO gauge We have also confirmed more details about our all-new OO gauge Class 47 diesels and revised O gauge Class 37/0 with split headcode panels, both of which are due for release in 2020. Full details of all these new products, and more, are featured in our 2020 UK catalogue, on sale this weekend at the NEC and via all Heljan stockists from next week. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Paul.Uni said: Info from Facebook The Mk2 coaches are a great idea, given how mahy Modernisation+ locos are now appearing in 0 gauge. My personal bent is for 2Bs, but I will very happily accept 2As. Interesting to see 0 gauge now also beginning to encompass more steam. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Back in May, Ben said, “LNER O2/1 and O2/2 - sales of the O2/3 and O2/4 were disappointing and there are still some out in the market several years after release. We feel that putting even more O2s into retailers would not be a wise move at this stage, especially as there's little sign of any demand for them when we talk to customers online and at shows. However, the design work has been done, so it's a possibility in the future if demand does start to grow.” I was disappointed at the time. Needless to say, now I’m delighted! Thank you, Heljan! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeBor Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 20 hours ago, Phil Parker said: I don't think this is embargoed, so take a look at some very impressive factory weathering on a 7mm Class 33. It's a crude cut-out mobile phone shot at the moment, but we'll try to get the loco in front of a proper camera tomorrow. This was also shown at The MIOG Show and was said to be a general release but I cannot find it listed anywhere as a general of Limited Run for a specific retailer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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