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Next up is the 1000 Leeds-KX hauled by a top shed A4, 60021. I believe from Gilbert that this loco worked the down Yorkshire Pullman the previous day and then returned on this train. This is the 1958 formation.

 

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The train is again formed from loose stock and is mainly Mark 1 with the interesting bit being the catering core. This was formed, as for many Leeds services, by a Thompson RF/RSP pair - I built these from Comet kits on Bachmann donors

 

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I’ve done a video for the last two trains.

 

 

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You may be wondering why I keep showing shots of the viaduct rather than mixing it up. Well, the Viaduct area normally looks like this.

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I have clear plastic screens to protect the signals and to stop any errant rolling stock making a ‘death dive’ down the steep loft stairs. In order to photograph the viaduct area these are removed and the green sheets which hide the mess under the baseboards are added. So while I’ve done the changes, I like to take a few photos.

 

I will choose a different area for tomorrows pictures.

 

Andy

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Next is the up Tees-Tyne Pullman. This is the 1961/2 formation as it was just after the Met Cam Pullmans arrived but still with  1928 all steel brake cars and with premier power, D9006, on the front.

 

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The formation is mainly RTR but the first coach is a modified Hornby Railroad Pullman which I have converted to Car 81 - one of the vehicles with Gresley bogies and no guard’s ducket.

 

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One of the advantages of the bad back I have had recently is that my wife has allowed me to move my workbench down to the dining room. This has freed up space on the side of the model railway for loco storage. So rather than having locos strewn all over the place and not being able to find the one I want at times, I have sorted them into a few key areas and grouped the main classes together.

 

So we have:

 

A4s (and the W1) above the fiddle yard.

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A3s and v2s on the shelf above my workbench

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Peppercorn Pacifics on my old assorted loco shelf

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Diesels on my workbench.

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and the remaining odds and ends in my old loco drawer.

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Hopefully, I will now be able to find what I need!

 

Andy

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1 hour ago, thegreenhowards said:

One of the advantages of the bad back I have had recently is that my wife has allowed me to move my workbench down to the dining room. This has freed up space on the side of the model railway for loco storage. So rather than having locos strewn all over the place and not being able to find the one I want at times, I have sorted them into a few key areas and grouped the main classes together.

 

So we have:

 

A4s (and the W1) above the fiddle yard.

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A3s and v2s on the shelf above my workbench

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Peppercorn Pacifics on my old assorted loco shelf

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Diesels on my workbench.

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and the remaining odds and ends in my old loco drawer.

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Hopefully, I will now be able to find what I need!

 

Andy

That's what I like, an optimist!

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23 hours ago, thegreenhowards said:

One of the advantages of the bad back I have had recently is that my wife has allowed me to move my workbench down to the dining room. This has freed up space on the side of the model railway for loco storage. So rather than having locos strewn all over the place and not being able to find the one I want at times, I have sorted them into a few key areas and grouped the main classes together.

 

So we have:

 

A4s (and the W1) above the fiddle yard.

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A3s and v2s on the shelf above my workbench

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Peppercorn Pacifics on my old assorted loco shelf

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Diesels on my workbench.

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and the remaining odds and ends in my old loco drawer.

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Hopefully, I will now be able to find what I need!

 

Andy

Hi

 

A great collection, I think you will give Tony a run for his money on loco numbers.

 

Nice Layout.

 

Regards

 

David

 

 

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57 minutes ago, landscapes said:

Hi

 

A great collection, I think you will give Tony a run for his money on loco numbers.

 

Nice Layout.

 

Regards

 

David

 

 

Sadly, I’m well behind Tony both in quality and quantity. Mine are mainly RTR (with some mods) with only about 20% kit built, whereas his are nearly all kit built. I have more Pacifics than I really need but I still managed to give nearly all of them a run on the last run through the sequence. I’m a bit short of utility engines still - B1s and similiar. 

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Tonight we feature the 1335 Branch departure from Gresley Jn to Dunstable. This is formed of a C12 with a push pull set. Here is the conventional shot.

 

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In order to ring the changes I have tried a couple of pictures from the far side which means putting the iPhone in selfie mode and leaning over in a slightly uncontrolled manner. Hence the pictures are not brilliant but I think they show another view point so they’re worth including. They obviously show a fair bit of scenic work to do! I like the aerial view showing the sweep of track into the station. Let me know what you think.

 

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...and finally a view of the train departing.

 

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On 05/11/2020 at 17:47, thegreenhowards said:

One of the advantages of the bad back I have had recently is that my wife has allowed me to move my workbench down to the dining room. This has freed up space on the side of the model railway for loco storage. So rather than having locos strewn all over the place and not being able to find the one I want at times, I have sorted them into a few key areas and grouped the main classes together.

 

So we have:

 

A4s (and the W1) above the fiddle yard.

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A3s and v2s on the shelf above my workbench

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Peppercorn Pacifics on my old assorted loco shelf

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Diesels on my workbench.

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and the remaining odds and ends in my old loco drawer.

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Hopefully, I will now be able to find what I need!

 

Andy

I'm sure there are gaps in the collection that will be filled in time, but as it stands rather striking. I suspect not complete in the photos either, no Brush 2's, no Lion nor the NB type 1 we saw a few pages back.

 

I'm very taken by the little drawer "white metal kit remains", sounds as if you've gone 15 rounds with some and these are the mangled bits left over!

 

John.

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5 hours ago, John Tomlinson said:

I'm sure there are gaps in the collection that will be filled in time, but as it stands rather striking. I suspect not complete in the photos either, no Brush 2's, no Lion nor the NB type 1 we saw a few pages back.

 

I'm very taken by the little drawer "white metal kit remains", sounds as if you've gone 15 rounds with some and these are the mangled bits left over!

 

John.

The loco photos aren’t complete as some are on trains in the fiddle yard and others in the loco shed on the layout plus a few live in cassettes with their trains. 
 

I don’t have a Brush 2. They’re a little late for my main period but if I want to run production Deltics, I should have one. I’m being a bit lazy and waiting for Hornby to bring one out in overall green (rather than with SYP). I’m also not sure whether I’d need to change anything for the Mirlees engined original version. I don’t have Lion either - definitely rather late for my period ‘- 1963/4 if I remember correctly. The NR type 1 is in the loco shed along with several others. I don’t feature this area often as it’s rather embryonic scenically but as you asked here are a couple of shots of the missing locos.

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As for that drawer, no mangling was involved. It’s basically got bits like spare chimneys in it. 
 

Regards

 

Andy

 

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Today's train is the up pick up goods. According to the 1953 WTT, which I use for most of my goods trains, this left New England at 0638 and stopped at nearly every station from Stevenage to Ferme Park station to shunt, spending 1325-1355 at Hatfield (which is where I've based my timetable) and finally arriving at Ferme Park at 1730. There was a second pick up which served the stations North of Stevenage and ran non stop through Hatfield which we'll see later.

 

Here it is arriving at Gresley Jn.

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The J15 is admittedly not the most likely traction - I imagine it would have been a J6 or B1. However, I'm lacking suitable engines so they have to be rationed! It was a Hitchin loco, so perhaps replaced the booked power there.

 

Here she is having deposited 3 coal wagons and 3 vans and picked up some empties. Now waiting to depart behind the all stations to Moorgate which you can see behind.

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3 hours ago, thegreenhowards said:

Today's train is the up pick up goods. According to the 1953 WTT, which I use for most of my goods trains, this left New England at 0638 and stopped at nearly every station from Stevenage to Ferme Park station to shunt, spending 1325-1355 at Hatfield (which is where I've based my timetable) and finally arriving at Ferme Park at 1730. There was a second pick up which served the stations North of Stevenage and ran non stop through Hatfield which we'll see later.

 

Here it is arriving at Gresley Jn.

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The J15 is admittedly not the most likely traction - I imagine it would have been a J6 or B1. However, I'm lacking suitable engines so they have to be rationed! It was a Hitchin loco, so perhaps replaced the booked power there.

 

Here she is having deposited 3 coal wagons and 3 vans and picked up some empties. Now waiting to depart behind the all stations to Moorgate which you can see behind.

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Almost always a New England WD on that working Andy.

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This evening, we see the departure of the 1345 from Gresley Jn to Moorgate. Being an off peak service this is formed of a five car mark 1 set. The peak services all needed to be quad arts for the extra capacity. Here it is ready to depart.

 

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And here we see it disappearing into the tunnels.

 

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i have been working on this rake using the West Hill Wagon Works converter to put NEM pockets on and then using Bachmann pipes to get them close together. Hopefully you can see the difference in this photo. the gap on the Left is as original and that on the right is post ‘piping’.


 

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21 hours ago, great northern said:

Almost always a New England WD on that working Andy.

Gilbert,

 

I’ve been mulling on this. I presume that your comment applies to 1958 as that is your year of expertise. Would it have been different in earlier years? I can imagine that before the rush of 9Fs starting in Late 1957 the WDs would have been required for coal traffic and something else might have worked the pick up goods? Is that plausible?

 

Andy

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2 hours ago, thegreenhowards said:

Gilbert,

 

I’ve been mulling on this. I presume that your comment applies to 1958 as that is your year of expertise. Would it have been different in earlier years? I can imagine that before the rush of 9Fs starting in Late 1957 the WDs would have been required for coal traffic and something else might have worked the pick up goods? Is that plausible?

 

Andy

All the photographs I've seen show it to be a long train Andy, not what we would normally expect in a pick up goods.  I assume that's why it had a larger locomotive. There is the return leg of the diagram to consider as well, of course, and New England did have a lot of WDs.

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19 minutes ago, great northern said:

All the photographs I've seen show it to be a long train Andy, not what we would normally expect in a pick up goods.  I assume that's why it had a larger locomotive. There is the return leg of the diagram to consider as well, of course, and New England did have a lot of WDs.

Thanks, can you guide me to any photos in books so I can try to get the wagons roughly right?

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7 minutes ago, thegreenhowards said:

Thanks, can you guide me to any photos in books so I can try to get the wagons roughly right?

Some in Peter Coster's two books of the Great Northern, as I recall, and I think one or two in the book of the WDs. Maybe others scattered about, but those would be the most likely.

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Today I feature the arrival of the 1254 from KX. This is shown in the WTT to arrive at Hatfield at 1345, the same time as the train an hour earlier leaves for Moorgate. I think this was possible because the trains arrived on the down side and shunted across during the hour or so they had at Hatfield so they subsequently left from the up side. My platform arrangement doesn’t allow that, so I have had to delay the arrival of the terminating train. Anyway, here she is headed by BRCW type 2, D5312.

 

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I also show a video of this arrival while the pick up goods follows the 1245 to Moorgate out on the slow line. This is one of my better sound fitted locos so crank the volume up if you like that sort of thing.

 

 

 

 

 

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Seeing a Crompton on the GN looked really odd to me as I always thought they were Scottish - until I learned differently from Gilbert! The Sound chip is very effective, but I'm still struggling at the thought of the thought  of going DCC with over 100 locos to convert!

 

The freight train doodling through is gorgeous as well.

 

Annoyingly your layout is making me wonder if I'm doing the right thing at the New Waverley line by not having a station...

 

 

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