sc2016 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 http://www.revolutiontrains.com/pfa-bulous-flats-from-revolution/ Information from Above Link: Quote Revolution is offering the PFA 4-wheel container flat to accompany the forthcoming KUA bogie flask wagon and further develop its successful relationship with Accurascale. PFA DRSL92798 at Carlisle. Photo courtesy Ray Forster. The wagons were built by Standard Wagon Co. in 1987 to carry containerised coal traffic for Cawoods Ltd from collieries across Britain to dockside terminals for onward shipping to Ireland. 56132 on Blyth-Ellesmere Port Cawoods containers in 1989. Photo courtesy Mick Page. Open coal containers were also used by British Fuels and CPL, with the wagons, and some were also pressed into service on trains for British Gypsum, carrying their distinctive blue containers. 66208 and 56056 at Burton Salmon with British Fuels and CPL containers in 2002. Photo courtesy Neil Harvey. 60041 with gypsum containers at Hellifield in 2006. Photo courtesy Ian Tunstall. PFA with blue gypsum container In the early part of this century a batch were acquired by DRS who still use them as runner wagons and for the transportation of containerised nuclear waste, particularly in distinctive half-height 20′ containers. 68002 and 68004 on 6K73 Sellafield – Crewe in 2019. Photo courtesy Andy Parkinson. DRS 37 605 & 37602 with waste containers Dungeness – Crewe 2018. Photo courtesy Train Photos. The Revolution model will feature our usual refinements and we are expecting to open the order book in 2020. We are also exploring the possibility of offering the wagons with coal, gypsum and nuclear containers and also offering these items as separate accessories. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 That pair of signals on the 2nd photo 56132 are very unusual! Paul https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/cawoodcontainer 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilambie Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Ohh the bank balance is howling at the thought of this, some nuclear containers and a large chunk of cawoods please! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stuart A Posted November 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2019 13 hours ago, hmrspaul said: That pair of signals on the 2nd photo 56132 are very unusual! Paul https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/cawoodcontainer Pretty sure the location is Helsby, just before the bridge next to the station and the junction to Hooton. (Grew up in Helsby) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie7 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Might have to test the water on eBay for the kits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan. Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) Hi Ben, Mike, Great News. Do you have a time frame for delivery? Will the wagons some complete with a Cawoods container?, Will they be available wagon only so I can fit my c rail coal containers? I'll be looking at 30 roughly what size 2nd mortgage will I require? Cheers Duncan Edited November 28, 2019 by Duncan. typo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium steam-driven boy Posted November 29, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 29, 2019 16 hours ago, Duncan. said: Hi Ben, Mike, Great News. Do you have a time frame for delivery? Will the wagons some complete with a Cawoods container?, Will they be available wagon only so I can fit my c rail coal containers? I'll be looking at 30 roughly what size 2nd mortgage will I require? Cheers Duncan Hi, In the hope of helping out Ben and Mike just a teensiest bit you might find the following of help. Ben replying to the query on the NGF 24/11/19: Quote We intend producing as many different containers as is feasible. Initially I am sure the low level waste containers and Cawoods will be part of the project. And buying the wagons unloaded will also be an option. Mike replying to the query on the NGF 26/11/19: Quote The PFAs will be listed very soon! Ben and I just need to agree a couple of things. HTH. Regards, Gerry. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47475 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 What an excellent choice. I'll have to resist stretching to a full rake, but will certainly pick up a few and add Cawoods containers for photos with my Large Logo Blue Blyth beast 56126! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedepot Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I've only seen pictures of Cawoods in block trains before - but did they run very often mixed in with other coal wagons (HEAs for example) or in with other wagons in speedlink services? Tim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 These are now live to order, does anyone know how many were in a train roughly? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium steam-driven boy Posted December 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 12, 2019 On 03/12/2019 at 11:15, bluedepot said: I've only seen pictures of Cawoods in block trains before - but did they run very often mixed in with other coal wagons (HEAs for example) or in with other wagons in speedlink services? Tim On 10/12/2019 at 13:37, Ed-farms said: ...does anyone know how many were in a train roughly? Hi, Accurascale Fran has posted a formation guide here: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/143313-pfa-by-accurascale/&do=findComment&comment=3762220 Regards, Gerry. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 3 hours ago, steam-driven boy said: Hi, Accurascale Fran has posted a formation guide here: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/143313-pfa-by-accurascale/&do=findComment&comment=3762220 Regards, Gerry. Thanks Gerry, looks like this could get expensive with some trains about 30 wagons. Hopefully my next layout will fit 30 plus wagons 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted December 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 12, 2019 The C=Rail kits are still available if you have more time than money! Steven B. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium steam-driven boy Posted December 14, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2019 Hi, Deposits now paid https://www.revolutiontrains.com/product/pfa-4-wheel-container-flat/ Regards, Gerry. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnshutts Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Hi Ben and Mike, Thanks for proposing yet another missing and much needed n gauge wagon. This could prove expensive Do you have any dimensions at all please? They look similar in length to a TTA but it's hard to be sure from the photos. Regards John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzler17 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 13 hours ago, johnshutts said: They look similar in length to a TTA but it's hard to be sure from the photos. Measuring a C=Rail PFA and a Farish TTA gives these buffer to buffer measurements PFA 55mm TTA 60mm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2020 Hello all, Apologies for not answering questions - I hadn’t seen this topic - so thanks to Gerry for pointing people in the right direction! The PFAs are in CAD right now though and we are hoping to have images soon. This is one of my favourite wagon types so delighted to be able to offer it! cheers Ben A. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
definate maybe Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Hi. does it look like there is enough interest in the British Fuels livery to consider the additional packs option.? regards mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2020 Hi Mark Looking unlikely at the moment as British Fuels is comfortably the lowest seller but we’ll continue to review the position. Cheers Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas G. Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Does anyone know what type of coupling the PFA will come with? Debating with myself over ordering due to the fact that the KFA had some coupling issues causing it to decouple and derail constantly. Will these be the kinematic type we have seen on the likes of the IZAs and HOA? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack079 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 According to the revolutioN trains website they are in pivoting NEM pockets with no kinematic mechanism due to the wagons small size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Harvey Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) On 07/07/2020 at 13:16, Lukas G. said: Does anyone know what type of coupling the PFA will come with? Debating with myself over ordering due to the fact that the KFA had some coupling issues causing it to decouple and derail constantly. Will these be the kinematic type we have seen on the likes of the IZAs and HOA? If you are having issues with the KFA couplers, check the coupler is not contacting the underside of the buffers on curves. A very gentle pressure to bend down the NEM pocket should solve the problem. Solved it for me on a reverse curve entering the fiddle yard. Edited July 9, 2020 by Mike Harvey 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas G. Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 @Jack079 Thanks for the info. @Mike Harvey Thanks also, I will try this out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan. Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) Hi Mike, Ben, Is there any news on when the order book will close on these? On 15/02/2020 at 17:13, Ben A said: The PFAs are in CAD right now though and we are hoping to have images soon. This is one of my favourite wagon types so delighted to be able to offer it! I have to admit that I have not yet placed an order as my available funds have gone on 'Caroline' and Class A tanks. I will order but could do with a heads up as to how long I might have to save up! Cheers Duncan Edited September 14, 2020 by Duncan. typo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted September 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2020 Hi Duncan, We won’t close the order book until liveries are finalised and approved, and at the moment we are only at the early stages, with EP1 samples expected very soon, so there’s a fair few months yet I’d say. Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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