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Copyright on works produced for commercial purposes, which will include postcards, lasts for 70 years after first publication. So any postcard sold before 1949 is out of copyright. 

Copyright on 'works of art', which includes amateur photography, lasts for 70 after the death of the author. The law requires that you make your 'best efforts' to contact Mr Beckerlegge or his heirs to find out what the position of the copyright is and maybe ask permission to use it. The worst thing that can happen is that such heirs can sue you for their supposed lost. 

 

AIUI the problems for Andy, and Warners, will come mainly from photos that originate in commercial image libraries and from museums who are allowed to add their own reproduction rules to images that are well out of copyright. 

 

 

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On 03/01/2020 at 10:11, RRU said:

Here are the last photos in the LMS batch.

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229) LMS no. 27217. No details.

 

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230) LMS no. 28585 at Willesden Depot 17-9-32.

 

To end, here are two views of the articulated DMU nos. 80000-80001-80002.

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231) LMS no. 80000-1-2.

 

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232) LMS no. 80000-1- 2.

 

Tomorrow..................The LNER.

 

any more photos of the LMS articulated railcar. Also does anyone know of any scale drawings? There have been a few models, so presume someone must have done a drawing.

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On 11/01/2020 at 03:23, billbedford said:

Copyright on works produced for commercial purposes, which will include postcards, lasts for 70 years after first publication. So any postcard sold before 1949 is out of copyright. 

Copyright on 'works of art', which includes amateur photography, lasts for 70 after the death of the author. The law requires that you make your 'best efforts' to contact Mr Beckerlegge or his heirs to find out what the position of the copyright is and maybe ask permission to use it. The worst thing that can happen is that such heirs can sue you for their supposed lost. 

 

AIUI the problems for Andy, and Warners, will come mainly from photos that originate in commercial image libraries and from museums who are allowed to add their own reproduction rules to images that are well out of copyright. 

 

 

 

We looked into this at the GNR Society, and came to the same conclusion. There's also a clause that some photos that were out of copyright can, in some cases, have copyright revived. In our case, the photo collection is viewable by members only, and is *generally* 1923 and earlier, so most of them are out of copyright.

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Many thanks to RRU for starting the thread, I found it really interesting, so much so that I sourced the Michael Carrier book which is marvellous. Quite happy for any pointers towards other pre-grouping photo collections if anybody has good sources.

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On 27/11/2019 at 09:06, RRU said:

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31) No.240 at Radyr Jct. 5-6-38

GW240 ex Barry Ry 42 Class B1, built by Sharp Stewart, 1890, wn 3602, rebuilt 1903, wdn 1951

 

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32) No. 819 at Moa Lane Jct. 10-4-39

GW819 ex Cambrian 24, ex Lambourn Valley Ry 1904, built Hunslet, 1903, wn 811, “Swindonised” 1925, wdn 1946, originally named Eadweade

 

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33) No. 887

GW887 ex Cambrian 89, Large Belpaire Goods class, built R Stephenson, 1903, wn 3089, reboilered 1932, wdn 1952

 

 

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34) No. 896 at Commins Coch 18-7-38

GW896 ex Cambrian 102 (originally 54), Large Belpaire Goods class, built Beyer Peacock, 1908, wn 5033, reboilered 1932, wdn 1953

 

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35) No. 992 at Swindon 1935

 

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36) No. 1126 at Worcester 1937

GW1126 ex M&SWJR 8, built NBL, 1912, wn 19756, rebuilt 1828, wdn 1938

 

That 4-4-0 locomotive is a favourite of mine.

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