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29 minutes ago, Gilbert said:

Off topic but what sound is in your 66s?

Nice video btw...

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ESU Loksound MKL V5 chip with the free download sound file from the official ESU website. Thanks for your positive feedback. 

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On 28/05/2021 at 08:44, Harry Lime said:

Many thanks to everyone at Accurascale for making these happen and for making at least one customer very happy. All I've got to do now is to decide what to run them behind - any suggestions?

Don't forget that when empty these wagons can be seen running singly with a single DRS 66 or 37, or top and tailed by DRS 66's and no support coaches. Lots of photos online for shorter consists.

 

Got mine the othe day, beautiful model that runs perfectly despite numerous bogies and wheels. Ordered it by default when it came out and later wondered if I really wanted/needed them? Now I've got it it an amazing model. Very pleased. Will normally operate singly on my micro layout with various forms of DRS motive power.

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7 minutes ago, ruggedpeak said:

Don't forget that when empty these wagons can be seen running singly with a single DRS 66 or 37, or top and tailed by DRS 66's and no support coaches. Lots of photos online for shorter consists.

 

Got mine the othe day, beautiful model that runs perfectly despite numerous bogies and wheels. Ordered it by default when it came out and later wondered if I really wanted/needed them? Now I've got it it an amazing model. Very pleased. Will normally operate singly on my micro layout with various forms of DRS motive power.

That’s very interesting, might not need such a long display case :lol:

 

I too ordered “on the spur” when announced, they just looked so....so....different I suppose, and I wasn’t wrong.

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On 28/05/2021 at 16:17, mevaman1 said:

Warrington January 2005.  Good use for the EWS Bachmann Observation Saloon.

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Great photos Mevaman, and the EWS sourced support coach and traction got me thinking about what involvement EWS had in running these trains. I had always assumed that DRS were the sole operators of these trains at least in the 21st century.  Stand to be corrected?  Possibly the EWS 66 was hired in but doesn’t  explain use of the EWS inspection saloon....

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2 hours ago, Johnfromoz said:

Great photos Mevaman, and the EWS sourced support coach and traction got me thinking about what involvement EWS had in running these trains. I had always assumed that DRS were the sole operators of these trains at least in the 21st century.  Stand to be corrected?  Possibly the EWS 66 was hired in but doesn’t  explain use of the EWS inspection saloon....

DRS must keep the keys to the drinks cabinet on there coach so EWS had to put there own on..............

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2 hours ago, Johnfromoz said:

Great photos Mevaman, and the EWS sourced support coach and traction got me thinking about what involvement EWS had in running these trains. I had always assumed that DRS were the sole operators of these trains at least in the 21st century.  Stand to be corrected?  Possibly the EWS 66 was hired in but doesn’t  explain use of the EWS inspection saloon....

 

In the Direct Rail Services Bookazine published by Key Publishing in early 2020, one of the photo captions states "The MoD flask workings were the last nuclear trains in the country to transfer to DRS operation, EWS having held the contract until 2006."

 

Therefore the EWS Class 66 and Inspection saloon was obviously the standard traction at the time.  DRS haulage is only appropriate for those interested in the post-2006 period. 

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7 hours ago, ruggedpeak said:

Don't forget that when empty these wagons can be seen running singly with a single DRS 66 or 37, or top and tailed by DRS 66's and no support coaches. Lots of photos online for shorter consists.

 

Got mine the othe day, beautiful model that runs perfectly despite numerous bogies and wheels. Ordered it by default when it came out and later wondered if I really wanted/needed them? Now I've got it it an amazing model. Very pleased. Will normally operate singly on my micro layout with various forms of DRS motive power.

Couple of useful links for solo pics.

 

www.revolutiontrains.com/revolution-goes-top-secret-with-kua/

 

www.tauntontrains.co.uk/photos/gallery/drs

 

I'd recommend this book too

 

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10 hours ago, ruggedpeak said:

Don't forget that when empty these wagons can be seen running singly with a single DRS 66 or 37, or top and tailed by DRS 66's and no support coaches. Lots of photos online for shorter consists.

 

 

 

Absolutely.

 

 

10 hours ago, boxbrownie said:

That’s very interesting, might not need such a long display case :lol:

 

 

 

 

A "full" 2x66/escort coach/2x KUA/escort coach is just short of 6 feet long in 4mm.

 

Just search flickr.com for KUA or 95770 or 95771 and pics such as this pop up

 

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DRS 66304 T&T 66301 - 6Z30, Ryecroft

 

Waits for single KUAs to appear on ebay.......

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One question - if these wagons are owned by the Ministry of Defence, why are they being used to convey materials from the decommissioning of Dounrey?  I'd always been under the impression that the Dounreay Nuclear Power Research Establishment conducted research into the use of nuclear power relating to use in civilian power stations.  Was there also military research conducted there that would explain the use of MoD wagons on the Far North Line? (yes I know that's technically two questions).

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27 minutes ago, newbryford said:

 

 

DRS 66304 T&T 66301 - 6Z30, Ryecroft

 

Waits for single KUAs to appear on ebay.......


That bottom pic looks familiar! ;)

 

I'd say singular flask workings are as numerous if not more frequent than with both. A search of 'Devonport flask' in Flickr brings up a lot of single workings, with a variety of traction:

 

37609 & 37069 Ram Hill


I took notice of the last working to Devonport as I wanted to see (what turned out to be only one of) the KUAs for real. Both flasks went south then one went back to Crewe sans escort coaches, then returned weeks later before both finally went north to Crewe, then ultimately to Sellafield. These moves for maintenance and positioning are quite frequent it seems, so definitely lots of scope for single flask workings in a smaller scale!

 

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5 minutes ago, Dungrange said:

One question - if these wagons are owned by the Ministry of Defence, why are they being used to convey materials from the decommissioning of Dounrey?  I'd always been under the impression that the Dounreay Nuclear Power Research Establishment conducted research into the use of nuclear power relating to use in civilian power stations.  Was there also military research conducted there that would explain the use of MoD wagons on the Far North Line? (yes I know that's technically two questions).

 

According to Wikipedia, Dounreay was also used for sub reactor development.

Although I didn't get to see that bit on a visit in 1989.

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13 minutes ago, Jack374 said:


That bottom pic looks familiar! ;)

 

I'd say singular flask workings are as numerous if not more frequent than with both. A search of 'Devonport flask' in Flickr brings up a lot of single workings, with a variety of traction:

 

37609 & 37069 Ram Hill

 

 

"DRS KUA"  in flickr throws up the most odd KUA move with JNAs... (I think we've had this one before)

Glasgow and South Western Growler

 

 

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One thing I find strange is that wouldn't it make sense for the escort coaches to always travel with the KUAs as if they go somewhere empty they must therefore come back loaded. I'm I over thinking this lol

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7 hours ago, 25901 said:

One thing I find strange is that wouldn't it make sense for the escort coaches to always travel with the KUAs as if they go somewhere empty they must therefore come back loaded. I'm I over thinking this lol

The escort coaches are moved on their own.

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8 hours ago, newbryford said:

 

Absolutely.

 

 

 

 

A "full" 2x66/escort coach/2x KUA/escort coach is just short of 6 feet long in 4mm.

 

Just search flickr.com for KUA or 95770 or 95771 and pics such as this pop up

 

37423 15 5 14

 

DRS 66304 T&T 66301 - 6Z30, Ryecroft

 

Waits for single KUAs to appear on ebay.......

Mine doesn’t fit in the station!

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9 hours ago, 25901 said:

One thing I find strange is that wouldn't it make sense for the escort coaches to always travel with the KUAs as if they go somewhere empty they must therefore come back loaded. I'm I over thinking this lol

Presumably the Guard need to be returned to their barracks.

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10 hours ago, Dungrange said:

One question - if these wagons are owned by the Ministry of Defence, why are they being used to convey materials from the decommissioning of Dounrey? 

to make money by renting them out  when not needed for the MOD movment

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10 hours ago, newbryford said:

 

According to Wikipedia, Dounreay was also used for sub reactor development.

Although I didn't get to see that bit on a visit in 1989.

The MOD ran a land base test reactor at Vulcan (to simulate the life of the installed models).  It's attach to but separate from Dounreay civil nuclear site.  Different nuclear regulator and tougher guards !!

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12 hours ago, newbryford said:

Waits for single KUAs to appear on ebay.......

Did occur to me too, £100 seems about right price selling price......:D

 

Trouble is the lovely box they come in will be half empty.

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2 hours ago, Ruairidh Munro said:

The MOD ran a land base test reactor at Vulcan (to simulate the life of the installed models).  It's attach to but separate from Dounreay civil nuclear site.  Different nuclear regulator and tougher guards !!

Both sites will come under the NDA by 2023 and will be cleared by 2036

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