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On 19/05/2021 at 07:28, No Decorum said:

Bachmann has just confirmed to me that the trailing wheels will be flangeless, even though early pictures clearly show flanges.

That’s very odd. Especially considering they managed to do a flexible flanged wheel on the A1/A2 whilst still having a fixed Cartazzi representation. I wonder what’s changed. 

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38 minutes ago, Hilux5972 said:

That’s very odd. Especially considering they managed to do a flexible flanged wheel on the A1/A2 whilst still having a fixed Cartazzi representation. I wonder what’s changed. 

Perhaps precisely the desire to avoid the hideous over-wide cartazzi of the A1 and A2, and low-relief detail that results from the excess width? 

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49 minutes ago, Hilux5972 said:

That’s very odd. Especially considering they managed to do a flexible flanged wheel on the A1/A2 whilst still having a fixed Cartazzi representation. I wonder what’s changed. 

Hornby have recently introduced an A2/2 and A2/3 with no option other than flange less trailing wheels. I think the game is called follow the leader.

Bernard.

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3 hours ago, Daddyman said:

Perhaps precisely the desire to avoid the hideous over-wide cartazzi of the A1 and A2, and low-relief detail that results from the excess width? 

I think you’re probably right. Opinions on how to do the trailing truck of pacifics is deeply divided. However, there is an optimal compromise and at the moment neither Hornby nor Bachmann is near it. In fact, things seem to have gone backwards; Hornby did better some years ago.

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On 25/08/2021 at 11:13, davidw said:

Has anyone actually seen one yet?

 

I created one with photo editing of publicity photos...

 

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Gives the general idea, but I'm not sure if it will come with pony front detail, or full guard irons, and so on, also not sure if 60964 will be modelled this decade...

 

will remove if required.

 

Lovely colour, certainly!  Reminds me of python-esque 'lovely plumage' parrots.  :)

 

I'm sure the reviews of 60847 in BR green with external steam pipes and 60845 in BR black with original steam chest will appear soon, and I look forward to them. 

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I confess I have bought a couple of the old 1992 version models recently because they still look rather good to my eye and are very cheap!   

 

But I will have difficulty resisting the new versions.  Just for the sake of comparison, you understand... :)

 

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What  plethora of detail variations Bachmann may have to cover with new versions! 

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I forgot to add the class leader 60800...

 

roll on the new versions. 

 

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The new versions will have better chimney, dome and presumably scale diameter wheels, and various details finer , but the old one is still nice. Even if most are split-chassis.

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It's better than the model it's replaced. But the valve gear, cab windows and smoke box ring disappoint. 

As do over scale boiler bands and rivets. Common RTR issues

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22 hours ago, OliverBytham said:

New pics of the RoS V2s here in LNER and BR livery. Very hi-res pics too, if you've got a decent screen to study them on.

 

ETA in November...

 

https://railsofsheffield.com/blogs/news/exclusive-Bachmann-class-v2-locomotives

 

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I think it looks irresistible

 

Especially 60964 with duller valve gear...

 

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from Rails link, unaltered. I look forward to arrival in shops!

 

November...   arrgghh      I can think of several aspects which could garner some criticism, but overall it looks truly excellent. For me the thick front frame extensions are just like the old model,  but there are no frame/running board issues in example above. and the general effect is stunning. 

 

I wonder what the timeframe is for variations, as in steam pipes, double chimneys and so?

 

Thankyou Rails and Locomotion.

 

here is a slightly enhanced version just fun just tone and background etc will remove if necessary.

 

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Wait for it folks, the rear truck wheels appear to be flangeless...  or at least attenuated flanges...   neat connection to tender though.

 

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by comparison to the old tooling, I haven't got comparable lighting but it's still interesting,

 

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I couldn't resist a comparison between 60964 new tooling and 60865 old tooling, even though tenders and steam pipes are different, not to mention my lighting is pretty basic.

 

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not an exact comparison but interesting,

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9 hours ago, robmcg said:

Wait for it folks, the rear truck wheels appear to be flangeless...  or at least attenuated flanges...   neat connection to tender though.

 

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by comparison to the old tooling, I haven't got comparable lighting but it's still interesting,

 

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Your missing the version with the later "upgraded" chassis , that has a much better Cartazzi Truck than the ancient one in the photo.

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10 hours ago, robmcg said:

 

Wait for it folks, the rear truck wheels appear to be flangeless...  or at least attenuated flanges...   neat connection to tender though.

 

Glance higher up the page and you’ll see that flanged wheels will be supplied.

 

The loco-tender connection looks to be the same as that used for MUs, with a clip which needs the supplied tool to separate. Rails says that the connection is adjustable – I wonder how that will work.

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