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On 19/05/2020 at 15:57, tractor_37260 said:

 

L/L 47711 AFAIK is coming with square HI headlights ? can anyone link a photo to confirm this as being correct ? AFAIK these were not fitted until repainted into Scot Exec livery.

 


Bachmann’s own image on its website certainly shows a square headlight but that’s not really surprising. It needs a headlight and Bachmann is unlikely to tool up a new cab just for that. It wouldn’t be cost effective and most buyers will just be happy to have a 47/7 in LL....eventually!

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On 19/05/2020 at 15:57, tractor_37260 said:

 

L/L 47711 AFAIK is coming with square HI headlights ? can anyone link a photo to confirm this as being correct ? AFAIK these were not fitted until repainted into Scot Exec livery.

 


I think you are right that they only had car spotlight type lights until refurbishment. Shame if it does arrive with a square headlight. Bachmann tooled up a nose end for 37099, but I don’t see them doing this one. 
 

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2 hours ago, brushman47544 said:


Bachmann’s own image on its website certainly shows a square headlight but that’s not really surprising. It needs a headlight and Bachmann is unlikely to tool up a new cab just for that. It wouldn’t be cost effective and most buyers will just be happy to have a 47/7 in LL....eventually!


the only 47/7s in LL were 47 711 and 47 712 Lady Diana Spencer .  

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Release dates for previously announced models have been updated on the Bachmann website. Below is a list of the OO gauge models that currently have a release date. For any OO gauge models that are not on the list, please check the Bachmann website.

 

A few models have have had their release date go back by a month or two. The BR Class 45/0 models have moved forward a month. The LNER V2 and a number of wagons are now due for release in March.

 

All info is from the Bachmann website.

 

July
32-199    GWR 8750 Pannier Tank 3738 GWR Black (GWR)    £119.95
32-205A    GWR 8750 Pannier Tank 8771 BR Lined Black (Early Emblem)    £119.95
32-216A    GWR 57XX Pannier Tank 5775 BR Black (Late Crest)    £119.95
32-217A    GWR Class 57xx 0-6-0 Pannier Tank L92 London Transport Lined    £119.95
32-480    Class 40 Disc Headcode D248 BR Green (Late Crest)    £188.95
32-486    Class 40 Split Headcode 40142 BR Blue    £188.95
32-486SF    Class 40 Split Headcode 40142 BR Blue    £278.95
35-502    Class 117 3-Car DMU BR Network SouthEast (Revised)    £314.95
39-425A    BR Mk1 POS Post Office Sorting Van BR Blue & Grey [W]    £69.95

 

August
31-390    Class 414 2-HAP 2-Car EMU 6061 BR (SR) Green    £259.95
31-391    Class 414 2-HAP 2-Car EMU 6063 BR Blue & Grey    £259.95
31-392    Class 414 2-HAP 2-Car EMU 4308 BR Network SouthEast    £259.95
31-519    Class 158 2-Car DMU 158766 GWR Green (FirstGroup)    £259.95
31-676A    Class 85 E3057 BR Electric Blue    £189.95
31-678A    Class 85 85040 BR Blue [W]    £189.95

33-181A    10T Covered Salt Wagon 'Stafford Salt Works' Red    £21.95
33-182A    10T Covered Salt Wagon 'Snowdrift Salt' Green [W]    £22.95
37-729C    GWR 12T Ventilated Van BR Bauxite (Early)    Aug-2020    £22.95
37-731B    GWR 12T Ventilated Van BR Grey (Early)    £23.95
37-778D    GWR 12T 'Mogo' Van GWR Grey    £22.95
37-780A    GWR 12T 'Mogo' Van BR Bauxite (Early) [W]    £25.95
37-807    LMS 12T Planked Ventilated Van 'Express Dairy Co.' Blue    £22.95
38-036    HKA Bogie Hopper 'National Power'    £66.95
38-037    HKA Bogie Hopper 'National Power' (De-Branded) [W]    £66.95
38-038    HKA Bogie Hopper DB Schenker    £61.95
38-144A    BR VDA Van BR Railfreight Red & Grey    £31.95
39-422    BR Mk1 POS Post Office Sorting Van Royal Mail Travelling Pos    £64.95
39-430A    BR Mk1 POS Post Office Sorting Van Royal Mail Letters    £64.95

 

September
32-739    Class 66/4 66419 Freightliner G&W    £149.95
32-739SF    Class 66/4 66419 Freightliner G&W - Sound Fitted    £229.95
32-740    Class 66/7 66789 'British Rail 1948-1997' GBRf BR Blue    £149.95
32-740SF    Class 66/7 66789 'British Rail 1948-1997' GBRf BR Blue    £229.95
37-528D    BR 20T Brake Van BR Grey (Early)    £30.95
37-534    BR 20T Brake Van BR Bauxite (Late)    £30.95
37-659C    14T Tank Wagon 'National Mobil' Silver    £25.95
37-661A    14T Tank Wagon 'ICI' Maroon [W]    £27.95
37-680B    14T Tank Wagon 'Fina' Silver    £25.95
37-682A    14T Tank Wagon 'Crossfield Chemicals' Green    £25.95
39-175F    BR Mk1 BG Brake Gangwayed BR Blue & Grey [W]    £52.95
39-180A    BR Mk1 BG Brake Gangwayed BR InterCity (Executive)    £52.95
39-184B    BR Mk1 BG Brake Gangwayed Royal Mail Letters    £52.95
39-190    BR Mk1 BG Brake Gangwayed Generator Van Network Rail Yellow    £52.95

 

October
31-740    MR 1532 (1P) Tank 1273 Midland Railway Crimson Lake    £149.95
31-998    LMS 10001 BR Black (Early Emblem)    £184.95
32-529C    Class 55 D9010 'The King's Own Scottish Borderer' BR Grn SYP    £179.95
32-529CSF    Class 55 D9010 'The King's Own Scottish Borderer' BR Grn SYP    £269.95
32-532A    Class 55 'Deltic' 55003 'Meld' BR Blue    £179.95
32-532ASF    Class 55 'Deltic' 55003 'Meld' BR Blue    £269.95
32-741    Class 66/7 66783 'The Flying Dustman' GBRf 'Biffa' Red    £149.95
32-741SF    Class 66/7 66783 'The Flying Dustman' GBRf 'Biffa' Red    £229.95
32-983    Class 66/7 66779 'Evening Star' GBRf Brunswick Green    £149.95
35-025    GWR 94XX Pannier Tank 9402 GWR Green (GWR)    £129.95
38-076D    SR 12T Plywood Ventilated Van BR Bauxite (Early)    £22.95
38-077    SR 12T Plywood Ventilated Van BR Bauxite (Late) [W]    £25.95
38-080C    SR 12T 2+2 Planked Ventilated Van LMS Grey    £22.95
38-081C    SR 12T 2+2 Planked Ventilated Van BR Grey (Early) [W]    £25.95
38-082D    SR 12T 2+2 Planked Ventilated Van BR Bauxite (Early) [W]    £25.95
38-083A    SR 12T 2+2 Planked Ventilated Van GWR Grey    £22.95

 

November
31-741    MR 1532 (1P) Tank 1303 LMS Black (Original)    £149.95
31-742    MR 1532 (1P) Tank 58072 BR Lined Black (Early Emblem)    £149.95
32-908    Class 108 2-Car DMU BR Blue & Grey    
35-026    GWR 94XX Pannier Tank 9487 BR Black (Early Emblem)    £129.95
35-027    GWR 94XX Pannier Tank 9479 BR Black (Late Crest)    £129.95
38-401B    SR 25T 'Pill Box' Brake Van Left-Hand Duckets BR Grey [W]    £35.95
38-402B    SR 25T 'Pill Box' Brake Van Right-Hand Duckets BR Bauxite [W    £35.95
39-200D    BR Mk1 BG Brake Gangwayed High Security Rail Express Systems    £52.95
39-275A    BR Mk1 GUV General Utility Van Royal Mail Letters    £48.95

 

December
32-683RJ    Class 45/0 No. 45022 'Lytham St. Annes' BR Blue    £159.95
32-683RJSF    Class 45/0 No. 45022 'Lytham St. Annes' BR Blue    £249.95
32-684DB    Class 45/0 No. 45040 'The King's Shropshire Light Infantry'    £159.95
32-684DBSF    Class 45/0 No. 45040 'The King's Shropshire Light Infantry'    £249.95
32-685SD    Class 45/0 No. 45041 'Royal Tank Regiment' BR Blue    £159.95
32-685SDSF    Class 45/0 No. 45041 'Royal Tank Regiment' BR Blue    £249.95
32-686NF    Class 45/0 No. 45046 'Royal Fusilier' BR Blue    £159.95
32-686NFSF    Class 45/0 No. 45046 'Royal Fusilier' BR Blue    £249.95
32-687TL    Class 45/0 No. 45049 'The Staffordshire Regiment (The Prince of Wales)    £159.95
32-687TLSF    Class 45/0 No. 45049 'The Staffordshire Regiment (The Prince of Wales)    £249.95

32-755A    Class 57/3 57314 Arriva Trains Wales (Revised)    £184.95
32-756A    Class 57/6 57602 'Restormel Castle' GWR Green (FirstGroup)    £184.95
32-756ASF    Class 57/6 57602 'Restormel Castle' GWR Green (FirstGroup)    £274.95
35-125    Class 20/3 20306 DRS Blue    £164.95
35-126    Class 20/3 20311 Harry Needle Railroad Company    £164.95
35-127    Class 20/3 20312 DRS Compass (Original)    £164.95
38-163    BR 12T Ventilated Van BR Bauxite (TOPS)    £23.95
38-170D    BR 12T Plywood Ventilated Van BR Bauxite (Early)    £22.95
38-171D    BR 12T Plywood Ventilated Van BR Bauxite (Late)    £22.95
38-375B    LNER 12T Ventilated Van Planked Ends LNER Bauxite    £22.95
38-381A    LNER 12T Ventilated Van Corrugated Ends BR Bauxite (Late)    £22.95
38-382    LNER 12T Ventilated Van Corrugated Ends BR Bauxite (Early)    £22.95

 

January
32-929    Class 150/1 2-Car DMU 150115 BR Provincial (Original) [PF]    £269.95
32-929SF    Class 150/1 2-Car DMU 150115 BR Provincial (Original)    £359.95
32-940    Class 150/2 2-Car DMU 150232 GWR Green (FirstGroup) [PF]    £269.95
32-941    Class 150/2 2-Car DMU 150275 Northern    £259.95

 

Febuary
38-230B    BR 12T Ventilated Van Plywood Doors BR Bauxite (Early) 'ICI'    £22.95
38-232    BR 12T Ventilated Van Plywood Doors BR Bauxite (TOPS) [W]    £25.95
38-233    BR 12T Planked Vent. Van with Plywood Door BR Departmental    £23.95

 

March
31-186A    LMS 5XP 'Jubilee' 45654 'Hood' BR Lined Green (Late Crest)    £184.95
31-186ASF    LMS 5XP 'Jubilee' 45654 'Hood' BR Lined Green (Late Crest)    £274.95
33-088A    5 Plank China Clay Wagon GWR Grey With Tarpaulin Cover [W]    £20.95
33-091    5 Plank China Clay 3-Wagon Pack BR Bauxite (Early) W-Covers    £56.95
35-200    LNER V2 4791 LNER Lined Green (Original)    £229.95
35-201    LNER V2 60845 BR Lined Black (Early Emblem)    £229.95
35-202    LNER V2 60847 'St Peter's School' BR Lined Green (Late Crest    £229.95
37-225J    BR 16T Steel Mineral Wagon Top Flap Doors BR Grey (Early) [W    £23.95
37-227B    BR 16T Steel Mineral Wagon BR Grey (Late) [W]    £23.95
37-239    BR 16T Steel Mineral 3-Wagon Pack BR Grey (Early) [W] [WL]    £69.95
37-250J    BR 16T Steel Mineral Wagon Pressed End Door BR Grey [W]    £23.95
37-256A    BR 16T Steel Mineral Wagon BR Bauxite (Early) [WL]    £22.95
37-275G    BR 27T Steel Tippler BR Grey (Early) 'Iron Ore' [W]    £20.95
37-279A    BR 27T Steel Tippler BR Bauxite (TOPS) 'Stone Traffic' [WL]    £21.95
37-353B    BR 13T Steel Sand Tippler BR Grey (Early) [W]    £23.95
37-354D    BR 13T Steel Sand Tippler BR Grey (Early) [WL]    £21.95
37-355D    BR 13T Steel Sand Tippler BR Bauxite (Early)    £21.95
37-357    BR 13T Steel Sand Tippler BR Bauxite (Departmental) [W]    £23.95

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‘A few models have had their release date put back by a month or two’; my heart sank.  But all is well and my now pre-ordered early BR 94xx is on track for November! 
 

A good selection of new liveries for my period wagons and vans, though I keep telling myself I’ve got plenty.  Well done Barwell.  

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The 4-Bep is running late.  Already listed at £449 so goodness knows what it will cost 18-24 months from now.  I wonder what is taking so long when fundamentally all that is new is the buffet car.  I understand it will have "improved" inter-car couplers which may be the 117-type and better lighting than the earlier 4-Cep units.  Everything has its place in the queue I guess.  

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9 hours ago, Gwiwer said:

The 4-Bep is running late.  Already listed at £449 so goodness knows what it will cost 18-24 months from now.  I wonder what is taking so long when fundamentally all that is new is the buffet car.  I understand it will have "improved" inter-car couplers which may be the 117-type and better lighting than the earlier 4-Cep units.  Everything has its place in the queue I guess.  

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More likely they realise that the price that they'll need to charge is unrealistic.

 

( OF COURSE, why it should be so high when three of the coaches - including the motor - are merely repeat mouldings, I cannot understand. )

 

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10 hours ago, The Johnster said:

‘A few models have had their release date put back by a month or two’; my heart sank.  But all is well and my now pre-ordered early BR 94xx is on track for November! 
 

A good selection of new liveries for my period wagons and vans, though I keep telling myself I’ve got plenty.  Well done Barwell.  

I’m a little concerned that when your 94xx finally arrives, you’ll expire from sheer happiness. Is there any way in which the “Squeeze” can introduce you to the model gently, a little at a time? :D

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10 hours ago, Gwiwer said:

 I wonder what is taking so long when fundamentally all that is new is the buffet car.  I understand it will have "improved" inter-car couplers which may be the 117-type and better lighting than the earlier 4-Cep units. 

That seems like a lot of development time and retooling for little gain, particularly as I don't recall the 4-CEPs flying off the shelves back in the day; indeed I bought a brand new  DCC fitted one for 110 quid not long ago, and they were selling for significantly less than that back in 2017 IIRC.

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51 minutes ago, spamcan61 said:

I don't recall the 4-CEPs flying off the shelves back in the day

They didn't move quite as fast as some models but they are on what?  The third reissue now?  And of note the 2020/1 versions are the same prices as the 4-Bep.  All that would be new in them might be the revised lighting and coupling arrangements.  The tooling is surely the same.  If only they would issue a plain blue - syp one as per the Modelzone commission.  That must surely be out of contract by now and available for general release or a recommission from someone else.  But then at what price?  A commission premium might have it listed at £499 and give more hopeful purchasers raised eyebrows and ammunition for critical posts.  

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This is showing the flawed decision Bachmann took in the first instance of choosing to develop the 4CEP - limited choice of livery. Hornby were wiser with the VEP, they just executed it badly where as the CEP was well done but just limited. As you say blue SYP never done but nothing else left to do without full retool to the refurb version. If Hornby would revisit the VEP they have plenty of liveries left to do. 

 

The first run of CEPs absolutely flew off the shelves but then I think I only paid £90 each for my pair new, but since then things have slowed substantially, not only just because of excessive price but the fact that in this country we are way to loco-centric and one thing that put me off the last blue/grey release was coach numbers for set 7152 but unit 7106 on the front which is just annoying and I don't have enough faith in my own skills to renumber it to have decent standard. 

 

Sorry for the topic deviation.

 

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24 minutes ago, steve1023 said:

only just because of excessive price but the fact that in this country we are way to loco-centric

 

That says it all really. Whilst the example you give is an expensive model in my opinion, and so I aren't directing this at you it's just the sentence was perfect for my point, the amount of whinging I see about the prices of multiple units is probably why the UK is loco centric.

 

Ihave seen comparisons made of the new 3 car 101 or whichever class it is saying "a loco is £150, 2 coaches are £60 and so why isn't it £210 instead of £270?" They want to compare a newly released/next to no discount DMU with an RRP ish loco and a pair of Hornby 2F post significant discount sort of priced coaches to a DMU coach that is probably equivalent or better than a Bachmann 2F with an RRP of £60. I say better as Bachmann DMUs normally have through wiring and may have DCC lighting. Along with the details that come with having engines. A Bachmann 37 and 2 mk2Fs with little discount would probably cost very similar.

 

I don't think £250-300 for a *very good* 3 car DMU or £200-250 for a *very good* 2 car DMU is entirely unreasonable, and the top end of the market for coaches and locos ties up with what you get to an extent.

 

Whether the market would better support something not quite as good/expensive, such as the Hornby 800, I don't know. I have 2 800s on order, but I'd have a Bachmann 158 if a suitable livery was made and I may get the Northern 150/1 too.

 

And whilst I don't claim to have a realistic layout so I don't want to be interpreted as preaching to people, I always think modern image layouts with and abundance of multiple units, especially multiple of the same type, look far more realistic than one with class 37s everywhere for example.

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5 hours ago, No Decorum said:

I’m a little concerned that when your 94xx finally arrives, you’ll expire from sheer happiness. Is there any way in which the “Squeeze” can introduce you to the model gently, a little at a time? :D

A Day (or perhaps a Week) of National Rejoicing will be declared for the whole of the Glorious Soviet Socialist Autonomous Republic of Johnstrainia, and no work will be done (actually, there's not much work done anyway.  The towns and cities will be festooned with garlands, and a ½ million Johnstrainian glugs (current exchange rate, £1 sterling = quite a lot Jg) has been put aside by the Treasury of Johnstrania for fireworks.   But I think I can handle it; I'm a glass half empty type of benevolent dictator and my natural gloominess will temper my eurphoria to a level at which expiration is unlikely!  The Johnster will, however, be a very happy puppy.

 

But, suppose there's something wrong with it and I have to send it back?  A day of National Mourning And Deep Sorrow will be Declared, all music bar the solemn dirges on RTV Johnstrainia and public gatherings banned, flags at half mast, and curtains drawn.  The Johnster will be a very unhappy puppy.

 

What will really happen is that a very loud 'YAAAAAAAAAAAY'! will emanate from Chez Johnster (the neighbours already know I'm mad), followed by a very loud 'AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH'! if something's wrong!

 

As for the squeeze, she is supportive and will be allowed to gaze upon it in wonder, and, after a few days, to drive it, which is only fair as she contributes to the old whisky bottle that holds 5p and 1p coins which is currently about ½ full and is earmarked to defray the cost of the 94xx.  I have no idea how much is in this glass receptacle, but even full it won't be enough; it'll prevent severe poverty in the time between paying for the loco and the next pension day, though...

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1 hour ago, The Johnster said:

 

As for the squeeze, she is supportive and will be allowed to gaze upon it in wonder, and, after a few days, to drive it, which is only fair as she contributes to the old whisky bottle that holds 5p and 1p coins which is currently about ½ full and is earmarked to defray the cost of the 94xx.  I have no idea how much is in this glass receptacle, but even full it won't be enough; it'll prevent severe poverty in the time between paying for the loco and the next pension day, though...


Off topic I know: we have an old pub sized whiskey bottle in which our 1, 2 and 5p coins go. Last empty was £136. 
 

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At that rate my smaller bottle should turn up about £50-60 by Nov, enough to float us until next pension day, 2 weeks tops.  Job, as they say, done!  I reckon there’s about £30-35 in there now... 

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3 hours ago, The Johnster said:

A Day (or perhaps a Week) of National Rejoicing will be declared for the whole of the Glorious Soviet Socialist Autonomous Republic of Johnstrainia,

 

Have you booked the marching band of the Clifton Street irregulars?

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Of course, and my own band, Samba Galez (google it).  Said to sound like ‘a skeleton w*nking in a biscuit tin’; you just can’t take offence at insults of that quality!

 

 

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7 hours ago, steve1023 said:

This is showing the flawed decision Bachmann took in the first instance of choosing to develop the 4CEP - limited choice of livery. Hornby were wiser with the VEP, they just executed it badly where as the CEP was well done but just limited. As you say blue SYP never done but nothing else left to do without full retool to the refurb version. If Hornby would revisit the VEP they have plenty of liveries left to do. 

 

The first run of CEPs absolutely flew off the shelves but then I think I only paid £90 each for my pair new, but since then things have slowed substantially, not only just because of excessive price but the fact that in this country we are way to loco-centric and one thing that put me off the last blue/grey release was coach numbers for set 7152 but unit 7106 on the front which is just annoying and I don't have enough faith in my own skills to renumber it to have decent standard. 

 

Sorry for the topic deviation.

 

Steve

 

Not quite - the first TWO runs flew off the shelves (more or less) but the third hit the bump.

 

I would guess that the new price reflects not only the higher charges now to be expected in China, but also the likely limited demand for a 4 BEP. Whereas I bought several 4 CEPs, I will only buy one 4 BEP *whatever the price, because that is all I will need.

 

Unlike the 2 HAP, of which I will need several, but when one compares the 2 car to a 4 car price, the 4 BEP seems a bit more of a "bargain" (given there was very little that needed changing from two previous outputs to produce the 2 HAP), not that we will see such things very much in the near future.

 

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8 hours ago, The Johnster said:

But, suppose there's something wrong with it and I have to send it back?

I’m in a quandary. It will have a coreless motor. Bachmann says that to accommodate the speaker and other DCC stuff we require nowadays (a chorus of, “Not me, I don’t want to pay the extra,” from DC adherents), the smaller locos must have smaller i.e. coreless motors. In my view, all locos should be able to start and stop smoothly but smooth slow speed running is especially important for shunters. I have been observing the new J72s. As far as I can tell, they won’t crawl. I already have J72s so I have no need of a new one which won’t crawl. Two items deleted from my list. Is the cause the motor? I don’t know but I think it likely.

 

The 94XX will have a coreless motor and I have no old 94XX to fall back on. Decoders have tamed some of my DJ models. Perhaps I’ll get one of these and see if a decoder will help it.

 

To those who think I’m a stick-in-the-mud I would say that I don’t much mind what the technology is so long as it delivers. We have had some small locos from other manufacturers which don’t resort to coreless motors and perform excellently.

 

I stand ready at the flag halyards ready to haul to half-mast.

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Hmm.  Coreless you say...  

 

I absolutely 100% agree that smooth slow running is important in all locos, and especially one that is likely to be doing a lot of shunting.  Bachmann have a pretty good track record in this regard, though, and while perfection is not quite available at RTR prices my Bachmann panniers perform well enough with careful driving and a very effective controller.  I am anticipating comparable performance from the 94xx. 
 

Good smooth stopping and starting is a function of minimising friction so that the motor can turn smoothly at the lowest possible voltage and lowest possible RPM and still be able to turn the gears and, ultimately, the wheels (assuming an effective and continual pickup and electrical continuity of current to the motor).  Bachmann are past masters at this game. 
 

So, a coreless motor should not, in and of itself, be any better or worse in terms of performance than a ‘conventional’ can motor.  Assuming the motor’s inertia is in the same ball park (a coreless is potentially superior in this regard) and the standard transmission is fitted, the loco should be fine

 

There may be issues around using feedback controllers, but a modern coreless should be fine.  My main worry is that the use of a smaller motor my mean that the loco is light on adhesive weight, which I can address by packing in as much as I can like I do with all my locos in the interests of improving both pickup and haulage.  I have a slight advantage in that I use DC control and thus have more space inside my locos that I can use for ballast. 
 

All locos improve with running in, and some take longer than others, even within the same production run.  I assume that if the new J72 has ths coreless motor the new run of 57xx and 8750 panniers will as well, so I hope my above observations are borne out!
 

All the same, suppose there is something wrong with it and I have to send it back.. 

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