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15 minutes ago, JohnR said:

They look good - any chance of a blow by blow description of what you did?

Hi John,

 

To save Darius a lot of typing here is what I did !

 

The whole is described in a post of page 8 of my thread, page 2 for the caboose for which I can supply drawings to those that want them.

 

 

Gibbo.

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55 minutes ago, Darius43 said:

Inspired by Gibbo’s posts on this subject I am modifying some old Hornby Freightliner flats using plasticard, plastruct angle sections  and other bits and bobs.

 

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I know the handbrake wheels are at the wrong end on the FGA - may get round to correcting that later.

 

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Eight more to go...

 

Cheers

 

Darius

Hi Darius,

 

Good work there and thank you for the credit. The old models scrub up quite well for a bit of effort although it gets a bit tedious when you have a lot to do, I did fifteen altogether, six FGA (outers) and nine FFA (inners). The container boxes aren't all that bad once you get a bit of paint and varnish on them to rid them of the plastic look that they have. I see you have applied some transfers for even more of an improvement.

 

Gibbo.

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24 minutes ago, JohnR said:

They look good - any chance of a blow by blow description of what you did?

 

Hi John,

 

I’ll post some “in progress” shots of the next one that I modify.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

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Just now, jessy1692 said:

Nice work! Have you used the pack of transfers from Fox for the containers and flats? I have some Railtech ones for the containers but u dont think they have the red triangles like Fox provide.

Cheeers

James

 

Hi James,

 

I used Railtec transfers for the flats and containers.  The red triangles are cut out from a slab of red decal paper left over from my aircraft modelling days.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

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5 minutes ago, Darius43 said:

 

Hi James,

 

I used Railtec transfers for the flats and containers.  The red triangles are cut out from a slab of red decal paper left over from my aircraft modelling days.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

Nice, will bear that in mind, you going to do a caboose as well? Gibbo kindly did me a set of plans after he made his. I have my own 5 set on the make after being inspired by Gibbo to have a go, however, i also got an S Kits detailing kit to go along with it.20191128_223606.jpg.6515f47862f6c6cbe4b4fd49b9b93795.jpg

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Third flat wagon on the bench.

 

Bogies removed by prying off the soft brass rivet using a small flat screwdriver.  Plastic coupling blocks removed.  Brass bearings added and plastic wheels replaced by 10.5mm diameter metal wheels.

 

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Container mounting pips removed

and bogie mounting bosses slimmed down.

 

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Solid central chassis truss web elements removed.  Razor saw cuts each side of the transverse webs followed by scoring with a knife and snapping off with pliers.

 

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New “slimmer” web elements added using plasticard strips.  
 

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Chassis edge “deepening” strips glued on and trimmed to fit.

 

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Cheers

 

Darius

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8 hours ago, jessy1692 said:

Top work, my 5 set seems to be taking an age to finish compared to your progress Darius.

Looking forward to seeing the full sets.

Cheers

James

 

Don't worry, you're rocketing along, I'm in a different zone trying to complete 15 Colin Craig versions!

 

Mike.

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8 minutes ago, Phil Bullock said:

Nice work! Is the open container a Hornby original?

 

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Hi Phil yeah they are Hornby ones, not quite as common as the boxes or tanks, they come with all the side boards in but they are easy to chop and change them to more prototypical styles

Cheers

James

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19 hours ago, Darius43 said:

Another flat finished.  Seven more to go.

 

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Cheers

 

Darius

Hi Darius,

 

Interesting that you seem to working upon a wagon at a time, I did mine in batches by working through each operation, five wagons at a time, and then going on to the next operation. 

 

I see you have fitted your FFA's with Kaydee buckeyes rater than the fixed bars as the originals. I used fixed bars, but then I'm far too tight to buy Kadee couplings, In fact I'm so tight that I fitted three link coupling and not screw link to the FGA's !!!

 

What wheel are you using ?

 

Gibbo.

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1 hour ago, jessy1692 said:

Hi Phil yeah they are Hornby ones, not quite as common as the boxes or tanks, they come with all the side boards in but they are easy to chop and change them to more prototypical styles

Cheers

James

Very commonplace on workings to and from South Wales; traffic carried included kegs, cans and bottles for S&N, aluminium slabs, steel rod from Cardiff Rod Mill. Some 27' ones ended up, loaded two per ex-Boplate, carring wrapped coil to and from Newport Docks.

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7 hours ago, Phil Bullock said:

Nice work! Is the open container a Hornby original?

 

Cheers

 

Hi Phil - yes its an original Hornby with some of the side panels cut out , a spot of red and yellow paint and some weathering.  It (and the other containers) are glued down to the flats with pva so future removal should not be an issue.  I added a Bachmann scenecraft tarpaulin load.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

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1 hour ago, Gibbo675 said:

Hi Darius,

 

Interesting that you seem to working upon a wagon at a time, I did mine in batches by working through each operation, five wagons at a time, and then going on to the next operation. 

 

I see you have fitted your FFA's with Kaydee buckeyes rater than the fixed bars as the originals. I used fixed bars, but then I'm far too tight to buy Kadee couplings, In fact I'm so tight that I fitted three link coupling and not screw link to the FGA's !!!

 

What wheel are you using ?

 

Gibbo.

 

Hi Gibbo,

 

I am using some "unknown" 10.5mm diameter insulated metal wheels that I spotted on e-bay a year or so ago.  The flanges are large by modern standards but are still OK for code 75 track.   I have enough for four flats so have recently acquired a bulk pack of Liliput 10.5mm diameter wheels from e-bay to cater for the rest of them.

 

I considered a fixed coupling for the rake of five but decided to use Kadees as they are "kinder" with respect to operation on the layout.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

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2 hours ago, Darius43 said:

 

Hi Gibbo,

 

I am using some "unknown" 10.5mm diameter insulated metal wheels that I spotted on e-bay a year or so ago.  The flanges are large by modern standards but are still OK for code 75 track.   I have enough for four flats so have recently acquired a bulk pack of Liliput 10.5mm diameter wheels from e-bay to cater for the rest of them.

 

I considered a fixed coupling for the rake of five but decided to use Kadees as they are "kinder" with respect to operation on the layout.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

Next step on mine is sorting wheels so thanks for the heads up on lilliput, being tight ill be scouring best deal for 10.5mm so will have a look.

Cheers 

James

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Me too:

 

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In mine I also added brass strip under the sides of the wagons, to reduce the tendency of some of them to sag in the middle. You can just see the strip under the middle wagon in the above pic.

 

I had a lot of scrap plastic card and sections so I just rummaged around in the box for whatever was suitable.

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1 hour ago, muddy water said:

Great!

Any chance of giving the dimensions of the microstrip section you used the detail the wagons? 

It will make shopping a lot easier.

Thanks!

 

I used Plastruct 1.6mm angle section for the container mounts.   Everything else was cut from a 0.5mm thick sheet of plasticard.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

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