BernardTPM Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Gibbo675 said: I painted up some of the Triang 30' flat sided boxes in Freightliner livery although I'm not actually sure that such a style of box was built, I also converted three Triang 20' riveted boxes into two 30' riveted boxes. These 30' boxes may well be spurious although there were 20' versions in this livery. Freightliner 30' boxes were either categorised type M and type R, I'm not exactly sue what they look like though. Does Bernard Know ? I will check through the information I have. I suspect the 30 foot boxes will be ISO only. They were still ribbed in the same kind of way but had corner framing and twistlocks so they were stackable. Incidentally, the middle letter on the numbers is the container type, A, B, C, etc. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, BernardTPM said: I will check through the information I have. I suspect the 30 foot boxes will be ISO only. They were still ribbed in the same kind of way but had corner framing and twistlocks so they were stackable. Incidentally, the middle letter on the numbers is the container type, A, B, C, etc. Hi Bernard, The trouble with the numbers on the boxes is that they are what are supplied with the Railtec transfer sheet, I know that they are incorrect for certain types of box but having a number looks better than not. Most of the numbers start 14L** although there ares some 13S** and 14T** numbers. It's all good fun and they look just fine, possibly better or possibly worse when not wearing my spectacles ! Gibbo. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 29 minutes ago, Darius43 said: Dunprimin Cheers Darius Hi Darius, You have done well with the joint a tricky as it is, good job. Gibbo. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railtec-models Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said: Hi Bernard, The trouble with the numbers on the boxes is that they are what are supplied with the Railtec transfer sheet, I know that they are incorrect for certain types of box but having a number looks better than not. Most of the numbers start 14L** although there ares some 13S** and 14T** numbers. It's all good fun and they look just fine, possibly better or possibly worse when not wearing my spectacles ! Gibbo. When the transfer sheet was created, a selection of numbers were used which were logical / best guess in the absence of any holistic and readily available information at the time. I try to have both breadth and depth of knowledge of railway insignia from the 1890s to the present day (imagine that), but I am just one modeller who started making his own transfers and gradually started making them available to others - and inevitably there will be gaps. If the number sequences on that sheet aren't 100% accurate then I'm certainly open to modifying them in future print iterations if there is need. Certainly enjoying seeing some of the finished articles on this thread. 4 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, railtec-models said: When the transfer sheet was created, a selection of numbers were used which were logical / best guess in the absence of any holistic and readily available information at the time. I try to have both breadth and depth of knowledge of railway insignia from the 1890s to the present day (imagine that), but I am just one modeller who started making his own transfers and gradually started making them available to others - and inevitably there will be gaps. If the number sequences on that sheet aren't 100% accurate then I'm certainly open to modifying them in future print iterations if there is need. Certainly enjoying seeing some of the finished articles on this thread. Hi Steve, Thanks for your reply I shall send you a PM with some number series that may be both more accurate and useful. For my part I'm not overly bothered about numbers of individual wagons or container boxes, your transfers look the part and that is good enough for me ! Cheers for your good work, Gibbo. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 21, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Painting completed. Cheers Darius Edited September 17, 2022 by Darius43 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) OK, here are the early Liner train/Freightliner container types: A 10 foot box B 20 foot box C 27 foot box D 30 foot box F 30 foot box, full side doors G 10 foot box ISO H 20 foot open J 27 foot open K 30 foot open L 20 foot box ISO M 30 foot curtain sides N 30 foot ISO P 20 foot insulated R 30 foot insulated (rebuilt from N above) S 20 foot box, side doors Different manufacturers an BR works were involved so not all containers in each group would necessarily look exactly alike. The standard Triang Hornby container is the B, the open the H. Private Owner containers would not be listed above. Additonally there were various one-off experimental containers and some of the alloy Speedfreight containers were modified to be compatible with the Liner wagons as were the bigger Speedfreight CAs. Edited February 21, 2020 by BernardTPM 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 21, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Dundecalin Next stage is to change the “L”s to “D”s with some black enamel and a cocktail stick. A job for tomorrow. Cheers Darius PS. Huge thanks to BernardTPM for all of his help with information on this subject. Edited September 17, 2022 by Darius43 8 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 10 hours ago, Gibbo675 said: Hi Darius, Freightliner 30' boxes were either categorised type M and type R, I'm not exactly sue what they look like though. Does Bernard Know ? Gibbo. Ms were curtain sided, introduced before the Tautliners which are familiar now. I've a series of photos https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brfreightlinercontainer/e228c79b8 They regularly delivered Schweppes product to the warehouse I worked in as a student. Paul 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 12 hours ago, hmrspaul said: Ms were curtain sided, introduced before the Tautliners which are familiar now. I've a series of photos https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brfreightlinercontainer/e228c79b8 They regularly delivered Schweppes product to the warehouse I worked in as a student. Paul Tautliner's USP was that the sides were load-bearing, unlike their predecessors, where the load had to be strapped down. There were some grounded 'Exide' curtain-sided boxes at Pengam depot, until it shut. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 22, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) Another FFA completed - paint shop awaits... Cheers Darius Edited September 17, 2022 by Darius43 9 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 21 hours ago, hmrspaul said: Ms were curtain sided, introduced before the Tautliners which are familiar now. I've a series of photos https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brfreightlinercontainer/e228c79b8 They regularly delivered Schweppes product to the warehouse I worked in as a student. Paul Hi Paul, I got the M type from Freightliner Life and Times where the type must suffix must be a miss-print for the numbers are listed as "N". Gibbo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 23, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 30’ flat completed. Cheers Darius Edited September 17, 2022 by Darius43 6 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 23, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) Load for next flat completed. I used home printed decals inspired by James (jessy1692) in his posts on Gibbo’s “blue striped Freightliner” thread. Cheers Darius Edited September 17, 2022 by Darius43 4 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Darius43 said: Load for next flat completed. I used home printed decals inspired by James (jessy1692) in his posts on Gibbo’s “blue striped Freightliner” thread. Cheers Darius What have I started ?!?!?! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 23, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said: What have I started ?!?!?! Be afraid. Be very afraid... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Darius43 said: Be afraid. Be very afraid... Well Mr Darius, I'm not one bit concerned, I raise you a Cartic-4 ! I might finish the kit and get it ready for sale one of these days. Gibbo. Edited February 23, 2020 by Gibbo675 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 23, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2020 41 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said: Well Mr Darius, I'm not one bit concerned, I raise you a Cartic-4 ! I might finish the kit and get it ready for sale one of these days. Gibbo. Well played Mr Bond. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gibbo675 said: What have I started ?!?!?! Haha! I did 2 more this aft as well! Note the lower two the British Rail is brighter white, this is because i applied the transfer onto rail grey rather than blue on the first one. Nice work Darius, youll have yours finished before me at this rate! James Ps dont look too close at thr numbers, iv given up caring if the are right or not after doing a few! Edited February 23, 2020 by jessy1692 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 25, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Second FGA completed. Another rake of five flats left to “do”. Cheers Darius Edited September 17, 2022 by Darius43 7 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 25, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Been working on some Triang Hornby chemical containers. Original BP markings removed. New markings printed on white decal paper. Completed containers. Cheers Darius PS - whoops - just spotted a typo... Edited September 17, 2022 by Darius43 7 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Darius43 said: Been working on some Triang Hornby chemical containers. Original BP markings removed. New markings printed on white decal paper. Completed containers. Cheers Darius PS - whoops - just spotted a typo... Love them tanktainers Darius, have thought about doing similar with a few of mine, excellent job. James 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallpaul69 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 23/02/2020 at 17:07, Gibbo675 said: Well Mr Darius, I'm not one bit concerned, I raise you a Cartic-4 ! I might finish the kit and get it ready for sale one of these days. Gibbo. Hi Gibbo, Just to give you a push in the right direction with the Cartic4, I could be interested in taking the finished article off your hands? Keep me posted via PM? Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravensdmufan Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 You guys are really doing great stuff with the Hornby flats and containers. For a while I've been thinking about buying a rake of the Bachmann ones, but keep putting it off for cost reasons. But now I think I'll dig out my 10 old Hornby ones - all I did to them in the past was to fit 10.5mm metal wheels - you have given me a lot of inspiration! 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 hours ago, jessy1692 said: Love them tanktainers Darius, have thought about doing similar with a few of mine, excellent job. James Hi James, In the spirit of "Shy bairns get nowt !": Get Darius to email you the artwork so that you can print me some off along with your ones !!!! Gibbo. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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