ess1uk Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Some great looking flats there. really should finish mine 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 19, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) Latest conversion subject has arrived - plan is to modify the open containers to 30’ versions in addition to improving the flat wagon. The label on the box made me smile. Brings back happy memories... Cheers Darius Edited September 17, 2022 by Darius43 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Those 20' open containers were a nice model. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Ill be watching this one, im on the look out for a couple to do a 30ft one with the bigger side boards than the triang ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 19, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) Made a start on the 30’ open containers. A bit of work with a razor saw, a Stanley knife and some plasticard strips and Bob’s your Uncle. Not worried about the gaps in the floors as both containers will have a full load when on the flat. Cheers Darius Edited September 17, 2022 by Darius43 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 30' opens were used for traffic from ASW (now CELSA) in Cardiff docks. As the curves around the works were too sharp for Freightliner wagons, a small fleet of long-wheelbase Tube wagons were used to shuttle the containers from the steelworks to Pengam Freightliner depot. The wagons had sides and ends removed, and some strategically-placed bits of angle-iron to keep the container in situ. 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 20, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 30’ open containers painted and weathered. Cheers Darius Edited September 17, 2022 by Darius43 10 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Nice job on them Darius James 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Hi Darius, Was only one end painted red with the other end grey ? I ask as I have some 20' opens that I am about to paint and I don't actually know. Gibbo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 20, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said: Hi Darius, Was only one end painted red with the other end grey ? I ask as I have some 20' opens that I am about to paint and I don't actually know. Gibbo. Hi Gibbo, The red red painted end came with the model so was done by Hornby. I don’t know if it is correct but I left it as is. Perhaps it signifies an openable (or non openable) end panel. I added random red painted panels to the sides. Cheers Darius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 21 minutes ago, Darius43 said: Hi Gibbo, The red red painted end came with the model so was done by Hornby. I don’t know if it is correct but I left it as is. Perhaps it signifies an openable (or non openable) end panel. I added random red painted panels to the sides. Cheers Darius Hi Darius, The trouble is that most photographs shew battered ad weathered looking flats on trains between boxes so that you can't make out the ends clearly, added to which the photographs are black and white. I could do with a photograph of one ex works so that I know what they were supposed to look like to start with. Gibbo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 20, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said: Hi Darius, The trouble is that most photographs shew battered ad weathered looking flats on trains between boxes so that you can't make out the ends clearly, added to which the photographs are black and white. I could do with a photograph of one ex works so that I know what they were supposed to look like to start with. Gibbo. Hi Gibbo, This website may be of interest. Cheers Darius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 A quick look through my stash of old Freightliner leaflets came up with this: So, the Mk.1 would seem to have red and grey sides, the Mk.2 (as per Triang-Hornby) grey; the sides are not in place, but uprights are grey along the sides. Diagonal planks on the floor are correct too (though not the location holes ). 4 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, BernardTPM said: A quick look through my stash of old Freightliner leaflets came up with this: So, the Mk.1 would seem to have red and grey sides, the Mk.2 (as per Triang-Hornby) grey; the sides are not in place, but uprights are grey along the sides. Diagonal planks on the floor are correct too (though not the location holes ). Ill be having a go at a mk1 one of these days. The old Triang Hornby model really is a good one. Ta for posting James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, BernardTPM said: A quick look through my stash of old Freightliner leaflets came up with this: So, the Mk.1 would seem to have red and grey sides, the Mk.2 (as per Triang-Hornby) grey; the sides are not in place, but uprights are grey along the sides. Diagonal planks on the floor are correct too (though not the location holes ). Cheers Bernard, You know your stuff ! Interesting that the fork lift truck has a crush cage at the top of the mast rather than around the driving position. With paint hardly dry: Gibbo. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Yes. Also note no under-rider bars on the lorry trailer, normal at the time. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 21, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2020 3 hours ago, BernardTPM said: Yes. Also note no under-rider bars on the lorry trailer, normal at the time. Excellent stuff from BernardTPM - I sense some extra red paint is heading towards my 30’ opens... Cheers Darius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 21, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 30’ opens now loaded. I used 3D printed beer kegs that I found for sale on eBay. I know the load should palletised but this was the best way that the kegs would fit. In any event it’s only keg beer... Cheers Darius Edited September 17, 2022 by Darius43 12 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 21, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Opens on the flat. Next project - 30’ box containers. Cheers Darius Edited September 17, 2022 by Darius43 5 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Hi Darius, I painted up some of the Triang 30' flat sided boxes in Freightliner livery although I'm not actually sure that such a style of box was built, I also converted four Triang 20' riveted boxes into two 30' riveted boxes and two 10' boxes. The box on the right is of a 30' type D. These 30' boxes may well be spurious although there were 20' versions in this livery. Freightliner 30' boxes were either categorised type M and type R, I'm not exactly sue what they look like though. Does Bernard Know ? Gibbo. Edited February 21, 2020 by Gibbo675 Duff information first paragraph !!!!! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 21, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Hi Gibbo, Great minds think alike. Started on some 30’ box conversions myself today. Cheers Darius Edited September 17, 2022 by Darius43 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Hi Darius, Are you aware of this thread involving Hornby boxes in early liveries ? Gibbo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, Darius43 said: Hi Gibbo, Great minds think alike. Started on some 30’ box conversions myself today. Cheers Darius Hi Darius, What fun I had lining the ribs up on my ones !!!! I used the latest variant of the moulding as it doesn't have the plain raised moulding strip or any rivets to make filing and sanding extra tricky. Gibbo. Gibbo. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 21, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2020 41 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said: Hi Darius, Are you aware of this thread involving Hornby boxes in early liveries ? Gibbo. Hi Gibbo, I have read and enjoyed your Freightliner threads many times - they were the inspiration for my having a go at my own. Cheers Darius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 21, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Dunprimin Cheers Darius Edited September 17, 2022 by Darius43 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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