hconn Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Does anyone know a good website to sell items? I have previously used eBay but have been bombarded with ridiculous fees. I have 3 display cabinets that I want to sell, but don't want to be hit with massive fees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, hconn said: Does anyone know a good website to sell items? I have previously used eBay but have been bombarded with ridiculous fees. I have 3 display cabinets that I want to sell, but don't want to be hit with massive fees. Just wait till the next eBay offer of £1 max selling fee, far cheaper than anything else and must have the largest audience of all, if what you have said eBay would not sell as much as they do. Remember if you took your items to a traditional auction, the auction would charge you between 18 & 22% plus VAT selling fee the same charge is also levied on the buyer. Given this is a massive 40%+ eBay's 10% looks good value to me, the 1% offers are a bargain in themselves 1 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted December 17, 2019 Moderators Share Posted December 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, hconn said: don't want to be hit with massive fees. Why do so many think the internet should run on fresh air? 5 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Back in pre internet days you either sold to shops for around half resale value or took out small ads which were charged per word and took ages to get printed. Even with PayPal fees selling on ebay at standard rates will cost less than 15% of the final take. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hconn Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, AY Mod said: Why do so many think the internet should run on fresh air? I was just wondering whether there was anywhere that did it for less, I didn't expect it for nothing 28 minutes ago, hayfield said: Just wait till the next eBay offer of £1 max selling fee, far cheaper than anything else and must have the largest audience of all, if what you have said eBay would not sell as much as they do. Remember if you took your items to a traditional auction, the auction would charge you between 18 & 22% plus VAT selling fee the same charge is also levied on the buyer. Given this is a massive 40%+ eBay's 10% looks good value to me, the 1% offers are a bargain in themselves Thanks I will look out for this 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Izzy Posted December 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2019 If the items are heavy then Gumtree might be an alternative to consider if you don't mind people collecting in person. Transaction can then be in cash. Izzy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 13 hours ago, Izzy said: If the items are heavy then Gumtree might be an alternative to consider if you don't mind people collecting in person. Transaction can then be in cash. Izzy I have found for heavier items Hermes are very competitive with prices and they now are so much better in the quality of service than a couple of years ago, just takes a day or two longer to arrive than Royal Mail However if you are selling display cabinets delivery will be an issue as I assume they are quite heavy. Collection in person may be the best option, but this will greatly reduce the number of folk who would be interested (as would expensive carriage) thus reducing what may be the amount raised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 14 hours ago, hayfield said: Just wait till the next eBay offer of £1 max selling fee, far cheaper than anything else and must have the largest audience of all, if what you have said eBay would not sell as much as they do. Remember if you took your items to a traditional auction, the auction would charge you between 18 & 22% plus VAT selling fee the same charge is also levied on the buyer. Given this is a massive 40%+ eBay's 10% looks good value to me, the 1% offers are a bargain in themselves £1 selling fees are not automatic though, they are only offered to those with a good reputation!! and have been ebay users for some time, I have saved quite a lot over the years with the £1 selling fee concession, I also receive occasionally buying concessions of 10% discount on purchases over £100. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 16 hours ago, AY Mod said: Why do so many think the internet should run on fresh air? There is quite a Difference between resonable and massive fees. No one said anything about being free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted December 18, 2019 Moderators Share Posted December 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Georgeconna said: No one said anything about being free. And neither did I if you read it properly. I just get fed up of people moaning about prices of the non-essentials in life, especially at this time of year when some struggle to feed themselves and their families. Anyway, please define 'massive' and 'reasonable' - you won't be able to, it's subjective. 3 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdr Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 try facebook marketplace 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Georgeconna said: There is quite a Difference between resonable and massive fees. No one said anything about being free. Georgeconna There are people who just love to hate successful companies, usually I expect those who never use them and probably will not use them in the future anyway Traditional auction houses have a completely different pricing structure, usually charging both the buyers and the sellers the same amount (anything between 18% & 22 % + VAT each) which will probably be totalling about 40% of the sale value. Items sells for £100, seller gets £80 buyer pays £120 A typical eBay model railways seller gets the listing for free and pays 10% sales fee on both the item and postage (some categories have different charges) There are no buyers fee. An item which sells for £100 + £5 postage eBay charges £10.50. If using PayPal (Now a different company from eBay) there will be a transaction charge (3% ?) Many of us find great little gems via eBay many which would have probably gone to waste in the past. Others do find there unwanted items are actually quite sought after by grateful modellers willing to pay reasonable prices If using a traditional a traditional auction company the sales fee would be £20 and the buyer would have had to pay £20. However if the buyer took the sales commission into account the winning bid would have been £82, rather than the seller getting £80 this would result in a net income of about £66. The eBay seller after both eBay and PalPal fees would get £87. If you are offered a £1 selling fee then you will net £96 However another point to consider is that Ebay will have far more watchers/potential buyers that a traditional auction plus you can choose the time and date of sale which does actually make a great deal of difference in the selling price attained. Granted the auction will present the item to its best on the web, but then eBay listing is very easy to do whether you use a computer, tablet or phone and if you are too lazy to take a couple of decent in focus photos and add a simple clear description then perhaps you do not deserve the best prices. As Andy says, very little in life is free and quite often you get what you pay for 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, rdr said: try facebook marketplace I have had a quick look, saw nothing which interested me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdr Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 hconn, try facebook marketplace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted December 18, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2019 There are at least half a dozen groups on FB dedicated to buying and selling model railways, even one describing itself as an on-line swapmeet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted December 18, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Stevelewis said: I also receive occasionally buying concessions of 10% discount on purchases over £100. I once received 20% discount and proceeded to buy a West Country and two 64xx tanks with best offers 15% under the seller's already discounted own website price. Recouped several months of my own ebay selling fees. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, TheSignalEngineer said: There are at least half a dozen groups on FB dedicated to buying and selling model railways, even one describing itself as an on-line swapmeet. How many folk view the items?, plus not an auction. Don't forget with an auction not only can bargains be found but sometimes items go for far more than anticipated !! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernowtim Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Got to admit I have never had any luck selling railway items on facebook marketplace, although i have bought a couple of things, did once advertise a leather sofa at £10 for collection only , got one reply from a lady who would give me the £10 when i delivered it to a town 20 miles away! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted December 18, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2019 https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/classifieds/ 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted December 18, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2019 12 hours ago, hayfield said: However if you are selling display cabinets delivery will be an issue as I assume they are quite heavy. Collection in person may be the best option, but this will greatly reduce the number of folk who would be interested (as would expensive carriage) thus reducing what may be the amount raised. I suspect the (probably) glass front would be more of a problem than the weight..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I would generally recommend Ebay, yes you pay the fees bit the wide market access often means better prices, I have been pleasantly surprised by some of the final sale price of my recent auctions. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 On 18/12/2019 at 09:28, hayfield said: I have found for heavier items Hermes are very competitive with prices and they now are so much better in the quality of service than a couple of years ago, just takes a day or two longer to arrive than Royal Mail Unfortunately Hermes has gained a deserved reputation for 'losing' stuff and its processes for dealing with such a situation are designed to make it very difficult to get redress (voice of multiple negative experiences). Add to that the low value of included risk in the carriage cost and the high cost of adding insurance which anyone selling locomotives or more than one item of rolling stock would be wise to take, then the alternative of signing up to Royal Mail in order to use the Tracked 48 service is remarkably attractive, cost competitive and with a sensible insured limit. https://www.royalmail.com/sending/uk/tracked-48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 12 hours ago, 37114 said: I would generally recommend Ebay, yes you pay the fees bit the wide market access often means better prices, I have been pleasantly surprised by some of the final sale price of my recent auctions. I think you have summed it up very well, you get what you pay for, possibly the largest auction audience available. However that does not mean that you can just dump items on without too much care. unless of course you are a buyer who wants a bargain, Some of the best items I have bought have been extremely badly presented, out of focus photos of items which look like a box has been emptied on top of each other, little or no description and ending when everyone is at work or asleep Either list as small lots or single items, with clear in focus photo/photos. Describe as best as you can the item and its condition. Key words in the title really works for those who search for specific items. Use the appropriate section to list in. Select closely a prime time ending, Weekend I find is best, Sunday late afternoon/early evening is my favorite. Research the item prior to selling, by finding out the maker, its name, region, whether its a kit, the material its made of, look for the same or similar items which have sold on eBay. Make the listings at your leisure and save them for listing in prime time. Look at other listings of similar items and copy the things which you like. As I have said quite often there are promotional events, use them. Also only sell a couple of items at a time, as packing large numbers of items is very time consuming. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 45 minutes ago, Pint of Adnams said: Unfortunately Hermes has gained a deserved reputation for 'losing' stuff and its processes for dealing with such a situation are designed to make it very difficult to get redress (voice of multiple negative experiences). Add to that the low value of included risk in the carriage cost and the high cost of adding insurance which anyone selling locomotives or more than one item of rolling stock would be wise to take, then the alternative of signing up to Royal Mail in order to use the Tracked 48 service is remarkably attractive, cost competitive and with a sensible insured limit. https://www.royalmail.com/sending/uk/tracked-48 I used to avoid Hermes due to the issues you have highlighted, I still use Royal Mail in preference, but Hermes are now so much better and for heavier items much cheaper than Royal Mail 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, hayfield said: I used to avoid Hermes due to the issues you have highlighted, I still use Royal Mail in preference, but Hermes are now so much better and for heavier items much cheaper than Royal Mail Lucky you! 'er indoors had a delivery from Disney 'go missing' only late last month - intended for granddaughter's 6th birthday. Fortunately Disney issued a refund but of course no birthday present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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