RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted March 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, atom3624 said: Is the door shape beneath the middle window supposed to be doors like they are on the Bachmann? Al. Hi Al A few class 24s had their doors sealed before the change to corporate blue livery. They all had the later style of square topped yellow panel. 2 hours ago, 25901 said: To be honest both models are a leap forward compared to the Hornby 25 that most of us have had to put up with for decades. I take all the hot debate on these models will be replicated when Heljan release their 25/3, I’m sure people will find fault and the rivet counters will be in fits never mind the wrong shade of paint army sharping their knifes. Then again what do I know, I only used to own the real thing. Lol Hi Robin I still happily run my Hornby class 25 conversions alongside my Bachmann 24s and 25/3s and my SLW locos. When at the head of a train on the other side of the room, 20 feet away, I can't tell the difference. I even have a DJH 25/3, not the bestest runner. Anyone got a unwanted unmade MTK one so I can complete my game of Sulzer Bo-Bo bingo? As for the prospect of the Heljan model, I am ready to jump into rivet counter mode after some of their cock-ups over the years. Edited March 19, 2020 by Clive Mortimore 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted March 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) Happy with mine. It may not be detail-perfect but neither am I paying the sort of price I would expect for a top-quality bespoke model. It looks perhaps a little "plasticy" but I haven't weathered it yet and that should change things. Likewise the glazed headcode panels look a little like stuck-on labels and again a little weathering could change that for the better. A nice detail is the headcode at one end where the G of 3G02 is half-wound (or jammed / slipped) as was seen often enough in reality. The rest of that display is misaligned subtly as well. Edited March 19, 2020 by Gwiwer 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul 27 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Advertised as having cab lighting yet nothing mentioned in the instruction sheet or does this only work on DCC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted March 20, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 20, 2020 4 hours ago, paul 27 said: Advertised as having cab lighting yet nothing mentioned in the instruction sheet or does this only work on DCC. Have you tried the microswitches underneath? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Back to the thorny issue of sound and many thanks to Dougjuk (see above) 'Bachmann have factory fitted a speaker' (hooray!) but it's beyond weedy (boo!) So upgrade as Doug has done is the best option. Not exactly easy, as yet again a manufacturer has left a pitiful amout of room in for anything and even using Zimo/Sutton/Youchoos' extensive range of enclosure speakers there is little scope for anything very beefy. (This is miles away from what Phil Sutton and Co engineered into the SLW 24 chassis several years ago!) It will work and it will make sufficient, if not epic, noise but yet again (and after a looooonng wait) we have a superb model let down by ill thought internals. Harrummph!! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgj Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) Here is my Hornby 24 again. It has reduced size front windscreens, raised nose doors and new side windows. The centre front windscreen I increased in size slightly. The Chassis is a modified Bachmann 25. Edited March 21, 2020 by drgj 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Legroom Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 This is an impressive model from Bachmann. The lower cab front doesn’t quite work for me but it isn’t too far behind the SLW offering. It’ll be interesting to see if either Bachmann or SLW do a 25/0. Then the big question is who will bring out a 25/1 with the early body style - Bachmann, SLW or Heljan? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 On 19/03/2020 at 11:04, iak said: Disassembly – BACH Lots of screws!; SLW Four simple clips. Different folks have different strokes, and I have no skin in this particular game, but personally I find that screws are less heart-stopping than clips. Mileages frequently vary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul 27 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Gwiwer said: Have you tried the microswitches underneath? Yes they control the running lights, it does look like there are lights inside the cab roofs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted March 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21, 2020 11 hours ago, paul 27 said: Yes they control the running lights, it does look like there are lights inside the cab roofs. Fair enough. I always turn cab lights off anyway. They should not be on whilst in motion and only on when the loco is stationary. DCC works better for such things than my DC set-up. Having just taken a look at my loco the "cab" lighting might in fact be the headcode box lighting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted March 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) Heres 5145 ready for service on Abbotswood... Thanks Jim! Original speaker not too bad with V5 chip and biff sound file so left it alone .... Edited March 21, 2020 by Phil Bullock Photo added 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opelsi Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Got mine run in today and fitted an old Bachmann 36-554 decoder I had set aside for it some considerable time ago, now programmed on the ESU ECoS. Also changed the headcode as per my usual (even though not always prototypical - rule 1) to 'Domino' style. Just renumbering left to do now, will be choosing the only one of these I ever saw, 24142 which by that time was a Departmental Loco located at Healey Mills in the early 1980's. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted March 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, Opelsi said: Got mine run in today and fitted an old Bachmann 36-554 decoder I had set aside for it some considerable time ago, now programmed on the ESU ECoS. Also changed the headcode as per my usual (even though not always prototypical - rule 1) to 'Domino' style. Just renumbering left to do now, will be choosing the only one of these I ever saw, 24142 which by that time was a Departmental Loco located at Healey Mills in the early 1980's. 24142 also did train heating duties in my home town of Worcester 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRUNFOS Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 This is my version of 24 141, last original boxed version running in 1976. Unfortunately it was supplied with four vac pipes and only one white air pipe, so may I ask if there is anyone out there not going to use theirs and are willing to part with them to pm me please. Thanks Paul. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted March 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2020 Am sure Bacchy would do their best to help Paul - drop them a message off their web site 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2020 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4mm-Diesel-Detailing-Pipe-Pack-/1139545834 Mike. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted March 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Enterprisingwestern said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4mm-Diesel-Detailing-Pipe-Pack-/1139545834 Mike. Good spot Mike - have thought for ages someone should market a universal detailing set.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted March 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2020 Picked mine up last week, first loco purchase of 2020 as spare £ very much now pointed in the direction of my fishing activities, plus new summer house and kitchen! Realistically very rare in the Bristol area, although around 1974 there was rumours of an unidentified Crewe based boxed 24/1 reaching Bristol on a Xmas parcels service. They may have been more frequent than this , but remember the 1975 cull very well, which put pay to all that. Just looked at my 1975 spotting notes, first visit to Crewe on 3/4/75, saw 24 134/142/143, so maybe renumber to one of these after checking for liveries at the time. Oh for a time machine, I saw 11 active LMR based 24s that day. Lovely model, but itching for a renumber and back date the 0O00 post 1976 headcodes. Must finish my other Bachmann 24/1 and 25/0 conversions based on brassmasters bits. Neil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted March 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2020 53 minutes ago, Downendian said: Picked mine up last week, first loco purchase of 2020 as spare £ very much now pointed in the direction of my fishing activities, plus new summer house and kitchen! Realistically very rare in the Bristol area, although around 1974 there was rumours of an unidentified Crewe based boxed 24/1 reaching Bristol on a Xmas parcels service. They may have been more frequent than this , but remember the 1975 cull very well, which put pay to all that. Just looked at my 1975 spotting notes, first visit to Crewe on 3/4/75, saw 24 134/142/143, so maybe renumber to one of these after checking for liveries at the time. Oh for a time machine, I saw 11 active LMR based 24s that day. Lovely model, but itching for a renumber and back date the 0O00 post 1976 headcodes. Must finish my other Bachmann 24/1 and 25/0 conversions based on brassmasters bits. Neil Fishing Neil? Whatever next? Here’s my modelling activity this afternoon ready for some social distancing tomorrow.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 6 hours ago, GRUNFOS said: This is my version of 24 141, last original boxed version running in 1976. Unfortunately it was supplied with four vac pipes and only one white air pipe, so may I ask if there is anyone out there not going to use theirs and are willing to part with them to pm me please. Thanks Paul. 141 for my fleet too.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opelsi Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Got the renumbering done this afternoon. All finished for this one now! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Opelsi said: Got the renumbering done this afternoon. All finished for this one now! Looking very good. What did you use for the replacement domino headcodes ? TIA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opelsi Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Why thank you kindly. I used 'Precision Decals' which are my favoured product for this application. Please feel free to check out my hybrid Class 85 similarly treated in the Class 85 thread! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted March 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 24, 2020 And if anyone wants Precision dominos in 4mm drop me a PM - I buy loads of sheets but we predate dominos so never use them.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Half-full Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 On 23/03/2020 at 13:07, Enterprisingwestern said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4mm-Diesel-Detailing-Pipe-Pack-/1139545834 Mike. After seeing your post I ordered a set of these, got them through yesterday and Im really impressed with them Thanks for posting the link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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