RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted September 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2020 24 minutes ago, pheaton said: Should the fuel gauge be there as I can't find pics of a 24 with an external fuel gauge...could not be looking hard enough though.... Correct with two gauges looking a 1976 image on Derby Sulzers: https://www.derbysulzers.com/24137.html Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I did a review of mine. Compared to the previous Bachmann 24 there is a lot of improvement. Inside the cabs is also another highlight. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold pheaton Posted September 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2020 yup fuel pipe brown refuelling one way valve..... no idea on the other pipe 24081 doesn't appear to have it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPinza55 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 My Class 24 is really jerky when running on DCC, but is fine on DC. How can this be resolved? Is this an issue with the pickups? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 5, 2020 Checking pick ups and wheels for dirt is first port of call 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted October 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 5, 2020 14 hours ago, JPinza55 said: My Class 24 is really jerky when running on DCC, but is fine on DC. How can this be resolved? Is this an issue with the pickups? When you say jerky do you mean it stops and won't start again without a prod (in which case Phil's answer above would be my first port) or does it run but poorly in which case I would look at my decoder instructions and consider whether it is optimised for the mechanism in your model. In my experience Bachmann chips can be very pernickety in this respect but are corrected by the changing of one CV as per the instruction leaflet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPinza55 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 On 05/10/2020 at 14:22, MikeParkin65 said: When you say jerky do you mean it stops and won't start again without a prod (in which case Phil's answer above would be my first port) or does it run but poorly in which case I would look at my decoder instructions and consider whether it is optimised for the mechanism in your model. In my experience Bachmann chips can be very pernickety in this respect but are corrected by the changing of one CV as per the instruction leaflet. The model just runs poorly. Can you recommend any CV's that could be changed from say default? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted October 8, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2020 18 hours ago, JPinza55 said: The model just runs poorly. Can you recommend any CV's that could be changed from say default? Suggest you post a question in the DCC forum. You'll need to say what decoder is fitted as default CV's vary between manufacturer's and even sometimes between chips from the same brand. I haven't got the latest Bachmann 24 (yet) and my two old version models are both sound fitted so their CV's are unlikely to help you. Good news is that it does sound like a settings issue rather than a problem with the loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRUNFOS Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Finally got a photo of '141 on the very embryonic layout. Regards Paul. 15 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Not of any relevance to me but I recall quite a gushing of appeal for the headcode boxed 24 for Scottish highiands operations with the car headlamps in the former gangway doors. The models are out from Bachmann now, but the cab interiors appear to be glued in on the first series, so fitting the headlights is going to need surgery. This suggests to me that Bachmann haven't intended there to be headlights for a while yet, but I wonder if the lighting circuitry has been designed to allow for a headlight function in the future. This is a bit of a surprise to me given how popular these might be to Scottish modellers and collectors. Having said that I also cannot recall Heljan releasing a class 26 with the same feature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 57 minutes ago, Covkid said: Not of any relevance to me but I recall quite a gushing of appeal for the headcode boxed 24 for Scottish highiands operations with the car headlamps in the former gangway doors. The models are out from Bachmann now, but the cab interiors appear to be glued in on the first series, so fitting the headlights is going to need surgery. This suggests to me that Bachmann haven't intended there to be headlights for a while yet, but I wonder if the lighting circuitry has been designed to allow for a headlight function in the future. This is a bit of a surprise to me given how popular these might be to Scottish modellers and collectors. Having said that I also cannot recall Heljan releasing a class 26 with the same feature. The Bachmann model is a London Midland 24, if you want that Scottish feel go for SLW https://sulzertype2.com/model-catalogue/ They have headcode box / headlight models to pre-order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, woodenhead said: The Bachmann model is a London Midland 24, if you want that Scottish feel go for SLW https://sulzertype2.com/model-catalogue/ They have headcode box / headlight models to pre-order. I am a London Midland modeller so have a GSYP one, and a BFYE on order. Not an ScR modeller so not an issue to me, but was merely speculating on the car headlights. Are you expecting Bachmann to produce a ScR version, or leave the market to SLW ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Covkid said: I am a London Midland modeller so have a GSYP one, and a BFYE on order. Not an ScR modeller so not an issue to me, but was merely speculating on the car headlights. Are you expecting Bachmann to produce a ScR version, or leave the market to SLW ? The headlights were only on Scottish highland engines were they not, I thought it was specific to the routes out of Inverness. Bachmann were quite clear they would be doing the LM versions when SLW announced their plans for 24/1s - perhaps it was a way to put air between each other and not directly compete on two new models of the same class. Maybe one day they will do something I'm not sure what other differences there were other than the headlights and that might be behind the reason for each company to plump behind one version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Covkid said: The models are out from Bachmann now, but the cab interiors appear to be glued in on the first series, so fitting the headlights is going to need surgery. This suggests to me that Bachmann haven't intended there to be headlights for a while yet, but I wonder if the lighting circuitry has been designed to allow for a headlight function in the future. The PCB's and moulded light masks for the front/rear cab are, unlike the earlier B'mann 24's, independent of the cab interior mouldings and are easily removed without interfering with the cab interiors. With the end PCB's being separate it would be simple and low cost (to Bachmann) to design PCBs for alternative nose lighting arrangements. The main PCB also makes provision for fitting of LED's and associate resistors for items such as engine room lighting. P Edited November 15, 2020 by Porcy Mane Being spaced oot! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2020 On 15/11/2020 at 13:23, Covkid said: I am a London Midland modeller so have a GSYP one, and a BFYE on order. Not an ScR modeller so not an issue to me, but was merely speculating on the car headlights. Are you expecting Bachmann to produce a ScR version, or leave the market to SLW ? I’m not betting on it, before SLW’s. I do think SLW will come up with a cracker though. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 My pre TOPS class 25/0 conversion, water tank removed, fuel tank modified to suit the final few 25/0's, roof detail altered and the body side steps very carefully opened up and reinstated. I had to get at the spigots retaining the water tank from under the motor, two were accessible and carefully drilled out. I could then pop the tank off from underneath, the steps involved a lot of drilling and careful filing, the hand holds are thin slithers of micro strip. The next one will be a simple renumber to 5150 as it appeared on the ScR, four double arrows but at some point it was given a replacement cab door complete with small double arrow( one from a cut down Railfreight logo just fits). 8 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatloaf Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Just picked up my factory sound fitted 24. sound sheet attached for anyone whose interested. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted April 26, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 26, 2021 Just bought one of these sound fitted. Superb model and the quality of the Bachmann mechanism is fully exploited by the Zimo sound chip. All of the detail parts fitted without the need for fettling and the new style instructions show clearly where they should go (though it would have been helpful to have known which colour cock went where even though the holes are differently sized which helps). I think the speaker is perfectly adequate for home use - in fact it was loud enough on test in Monk Bar model shop. Overall very impressed with this new Type 2 and am now looking forward to the class 20. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) With my club now open again I took the opportunity to get some more photos of 5170 visiting Dewsbury Midland along with 5149, my rendition of 5149 was based on a picture taken at Bradfored circa '67 or '68 just before it went to the ScR. It was withdrawn in 1972 after fire damage. 5170 was also an ER loco around the same time. Edited May 24, 2021 by w124bob 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 On 26/04/2021 at 13:40, MikeParkin65 said: it would have been helpful to have known which colour cock went where even though the holes are differently sized No. Just no. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) For anyone contemplating a 25/0 conversion there is now an alternative to removing the water tank(see my conversion a few post ago). A full chassis swap with a 24035, this comes without boiler tank but obviously the roof detail still needs doing, there is also the different lighting for disc/headcode. The easiest way with this is to swap the entire 3 piece circuit boards over, the 2 cab sub boards have soldered connections which some might find ok to swap. It's just taken me about an hour to do the circuit board swap, most of that was for the numerous screws involved! This will give you a 24035 with a boiler tank, and a full set of fuel/water gauges, matching several real examples, I'm doing 24054 just before it was converted to a train heat loco, the 25/0 will go pre TOPS to 5154. Edited November 10, 2021 by w124bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 24 minutes ago, w124bob said: (see my conversion a few post ago) Nice job. Being picky, D5170 had the late type headcode box (without horns) at the No.1 end when in green livery circa 1967 and retained that cab end after works visit for overhaul and repaint into blue. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Porcy Mane said: Nice job. Being picky, D5170 had the late type headcode box (without horns) at the No.1 end when in green livery circa 1967 and retained that cab end after works visit for overhaul and repaint into blue. P Oh b****r, I searched dozens of piccies and still missed that, now that I look closely at the Derbysulzers pic you can just make out the sloping side to the headcode housing. I'll just renumber it, that post has been up months too! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRUNFOS Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 With a little more underframe weathering and steel paint on footsteps 141 sits with a Scottish cousin. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 On 24/11/2021 at 16:22, GRUNFOS said: With a little more underframe weathering and steel paint on footsteps 141 sits with a Scottish cousin. Very very nice. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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