RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, robertcwp said: Seems to be a modified exhaust on this one: Class 24/2 No 5135 by John Evans, on Flickr Agreed - as does 5145, have edited my post above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, russ p said: Did the silencers make them much quieter? Considerably so according to a well known P4 modeller and ex BR employee, that saw them introduced onto the North Eastern region and witnessed them running on a daily basis. On hearing a SLW sound fitted 24 for the first time he said, "far too loud for a silencer fitted example. Spot on for the later modified exhausts". 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2019 And that lovely snarling burble is how I remember them.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2019 32 minutes ago, robertcwp said: Seems to be a modified exhaust on this one: Class 24/2 No 5135 by John Evans, on Flickr That doesn't appear to have any frontal illumination at all, just tail lights Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted December 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 hour ago, russ p said: That doesn't appear to have any frontal illumination at all, just tail lights Front illumination would come from the headcode. Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Roy Langridge said: Front illumination would come from the headcode. Roy Aye but its covered with a board! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 12 hours ago, meatloaf said: Got mine last week. Runs great but theres 4 screws not mentioned in the instructions if you want to get the body off to DCC it. In fact those four screws that you mention do not need to be removed. They are to hold underframe/ solebar detail in place and do not engage with the body. The six screws shown in the instructions are all that need to be removed to release the body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted December 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, russ p said: Aye but its covered with a board! Jolly good point, didn’t notice that looking on my phone! Roy Edited December 24, 2019 by Roy Langridge Can’t type 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted December 26, 2019 Author Share Posted December 26, 2019 Interesting article. I did wonder about converting the new Bachmann 24 to a 25/0, possibly 5163 as seen on Derby Sulzers. What the article referred to above does not pick up on is that the boiler vent and exhaust on the roof need to go, as 25/0s were not boiler fitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 26, 2019 I do wonder with the 24s and 25s that were retro fitted with the later roof dome of the horns were actually moved or if they were just dummies as the dome is a fibreglass moulding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 2 hours ago, robertcwp said: Interesting article. I did wonder about converting the new Bachmann 24 to a 25/0, possibly 5163 as seen on Derby Sulzers. What the article referred to above does not pick up on is that the boiler vent and exhaust on the roof need to go, as 25/0s were not boiler fitted. Appears said article post has been removed/deleted ? shame as it was some impressive modelling.............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 I posted the article up and I have not got a clue while it was removed, I only put it up to help anyone who fancied having a ago at doing a conversion, shame looks like I’m another rm web bad boy off I go to pastures new Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, roomey said: I posted the article up and I have not got a clue while it was removed, I only put it up to help anyone who fancied having a ago at doing a conversion, shame looks like I’m another rm web bad boy off I go to pastures new Have you asked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlebox Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, roomey said: I posted the article up and I have not got a clue while it was removed, I only put it up to help anyone who fancied having a ago at doing a conversion, shame looks like I’m another rm web bad boy off I go to pastures new That's my kind of conversion...perhaps we might get an explanation of why it was removed? Edited December 26, 2019 by Axlebox 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 32 minutes ago, roomey said: I posted the article up and I have not got a clue while it was removed, I only put it up to help anyone who fancied having a ago at doing a conversion, shame looks like I’m another rm web bad boy off I go to pastures new 32 minutes ago, roomey said: I posted the article up and I have not got a clue while it was removed, I only put it up to help anyone who fancied having a ago at doing a conversion, shame looks like I’m another rm web bad boy off I go to pastures new Copyright I would imagine. Bernard 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted December 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) As it was a copy of the printed article, almost certainly removed as being a copyright infringement. If the text and images are available by the author, they can likely be used in their own right posted as separate items on this thread. Edited December 26, 2019 by PMP Unpredictable text Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 I am the author Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 minute ago, roomey said: I am the author Hmmm. I know it's boxing day and folk have better things to do than look at t'inteterweb but if somebody took time to remove you're post, I'd have thought it a common courtesy for them to expend a little extra time in explaining the reason why. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted December 26, 2019 Administrators Share Posted December 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, roomey said: I am the author In which case, unless you have signed away your copyright, you can post your (not the edited) words and photos. What you can't do is publish the magazine, that copyright doesn't belong to you. It's also impossible for a mod to be sure immediately that it IS you who wrote it. RMweb policy is not to share copyright material. Before sharing it, remember, you were paid for this piece. How fair is it to give away something you have been paid for? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted December 26, 2019 Administrators Share Posted December 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Porcy Mane said: Hmmm. I know it's boxing day and folk have better things to do than look at t'inteterweb but if somebody took time to remove you're post, I'd have thought it a common courtesy for them to expend a little extra time in explaining the reason why. Looking at it, it was an automatic hide - but you might also consider it a common courtesy not to break the rules on copyright material everyone signs up for. It's not like the mods are paid to provide a 24/7/365 service to try to stop people breaking the law. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted December 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, roomey said: I am the author I know. Phil P has explained the RMw take on it. Some publishers also have an exclusivity contract on media and medium, when you publish your work with them. I don’t know if RE? has such a clause, but it’s possible an author could also be in breach of copyright of their publisher if they copy their own work onto an unauthorised platform or medium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted December 26, 2019 Administrators Share Posted December 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, PMP said: I know. Phil P has explained the RMw take on it. Some publishers also have an exclusivity contract on media and medium, when you publish your work with them. I don’t know if RE? has such a clause, but it’s possible an author could also be in breach of copyright of their publisher if they copy their own work onto an unauthorised platform or medium. Most work is sold on a First Serial Rights basis - you hand over copyright to the magazine for them to publish. Once they have, you get it back. In the world of on-line publishing, the lines get blurred a bit and some will now insist that they get to publish on the web too. Each publisher is different in this regard. However, if someone has paid you for your work, is it fair to almost immediately give it away for free? What you don't own is the design and layout, that's the publishers intellectual property. Nor do you own the article as it appeared after editing. You own your original version. As someone who still does a bit of freelancing, I'm a bit extra-sensitive about people ripping off copyright. My feeling is that the articles I write are my job. I deserve to get paid for it and so do other authors. If you are well off enough that you can give away all your work (whatever it is) for free, congratulations. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) I saw the article, looks good, but copyrighted. Why not tell the audience where you can find it instead (mag/edition), for those interested in the model. for those scratching their head...it was about class 25 25008. https://www.derbysulzers.com/25008.html 25009 was equally unusual. https://www.derbysulzers.com/25009.html Edited December 26, 2019 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted December 26, 2019 Administrators Share Posted December 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, adb968008 said: I saw the article, looks good. Why not tell the audience where you can find it instead (mag/edition). A quick look shows back issues are available - https://www.classicmagazines.co.uk/issue/View/issue/RE201811/november-2018 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 26, 2019 This might help... https://www.derbysulzers.com/25003.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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