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How difficult can it be to find photos of the inside of a GWR goods shed office?

 

Well it's quite easy if you want a major city goods hub - Hockley - thanks to Great Western Journal or the excellent Warwickshire Railways website, e.g.:

https://warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrhd740.htm

 

However, if you want somewhere at the other end of the scale - ...?

 

Checking the internet and my book collection I've only found three relevant photos. Two at Pershore (GWR Goods Services part 2A) and one, very close to home, at Wallingford (The Wallingford Branch).

Of course neither of these sheds are the same design as Cholsey!

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3 hours ago, Nick Gough said:

The photos are, of course, black and white but show that the walls were painted a dark colour up to waist height and a light colour above.

 

Nick,

This is not very helpful, but I did read on a thread what those colours might have been, but I cannot remember which one.  It may well have been yours, (sorry), or it could have been Henley, or possibly one of @Mikkel 's.  Maybe it was Porth Dinllaen?

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This website

https://www.stationcolours.com/gwr

states,

"Interior walls of brick or stone buildings were plastered and painted with distemper, which was supplied in white, cream, brown, Ivy Green, Dark Green and Cambridge blue. One of the darker shades was used up to dado level, with a lighter shade above."

 

 

This fits with some preserved examples, e.g. Kidderminster:

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16 hours ago, ChrisN said:

 

Nick,

This is not very helpful, but I did read on a thread what those colours might have been, but I cannot remember which one.  It may well have been yours, (sorry), or it could have been Henley, or possibly one of @Mikkel 's.  Maybe it was Porth Dinllaen?

 

There was a discussion about the interior colours of weighbridge offices on Nick's thread, if that's what you mean?  This link goes to where it started, but if you move on to the following pages there are some very interesting photos by Tim V:

 

 

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5 hours ago, Mikkel said:

 

There was a discussion about the interior colours of weighbridge offices on Nick's thread, if that's what you mean?  This link goes to where it started, but if you move on to the following pages there are some very interesting photos by Tim V:

 

 

Thank you Mikkel for pointing me to that interesting thread.

 

I expected that building interiors would be covered in Great Western Way, but I can't find anything in the original edition.

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Yes, nothing much in my version of GWW either. Have you seen the Hockley photos here - especially the 1939 one of the Invoicing Office which is just at the end of your period if I understand correctly. Very large offices of course, and a different setting:

 

https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/hockley_goods.htm#offices

 

 

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9 hours ago, Mikkel said:

Yes, nothing much in my version of GWW either. Have you seen the Hockley photos here - especially the 1939 one of the Invoicing Office which is just at the end of your period if I understand correctly. Very large offices of course, and a different setting:

 

https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/hockley_goods.htm#offices

 

 

I have thanks.

 

They are interesting for the decor and fixtures and fittings, at least some of which must have appeared in the smaller goods facilities.

 

I can't imagine, though, that any of the young ladies shewn in the Comptometer Office would have enjoyed a posting to the goods office of a Berkshire junction station.

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4 hours ago, Nick Gough said:

I can't imagine, though, that any of the young ladies shewn in the Comptometer Office would have enjoyed a posting to the goods office of a Berkshire junction station.

I don't know. Much easier to get "up Town" for a night out.

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A rudimentary, long desk:

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To fit along the end wall of the office, below the windows:

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This seems to be a common feature of GWR goods sheds built late 19th/early 20th century - no doubt to take most advantage of available natural light.

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I've started drawing up window frames in Silhouette Studio for cutting out:

 

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Starting with the office windows, my initial cutting drawing is on the left in red. 

Working from a 4mm drawing of one of the Tetbury goods shed windows, on the right, imported into the programme.

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Nick,

Just a suggestion, make the outer lines that need cutting in a different colour so that it will cut from the inside out.  It ought not to matter as it will be stuck to the mat but better safe than sorry.  Also I think you will need to make the top and bottom sashes separate.

 

Forgive me if this is obvious to you, but I would sooner say it than watch you learn the hard way.

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9 hours ago, ChrisN said:

Nick,

Just a suggestion, make the outer lines that need cutting in a different colour so that it will cut from the inside out.  It ought not to matter as it will be stuck to the mat but better safe than sorry.  Also I think you will need to make the top and bottom sashes separate.

 

Forgive me if this is obvious to you, but I would sooner say it than watch you learn the hard way.

Thanks Chris. 

It never hurts to be reminded! Measure twice, cut once, etc.

 

This is just my first draft. Once I am happy with the dimensions I will duplicate it then adjust those to create the different layers. I am not sure, at the moment, how thick to make the layers.

 

These will be the most complicated windows for the goods shed, but should be good practice for when I make the station buildings.

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Not much modelling time in the last ten days.

Last weekend we were able to visit father-in-law, in Swanage for the first time this year.

 

We did take the opportunity to support the local railway again where this loco was on its last few running days prior to withdrawal for a ten year overhaul:

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The current position with the goods shed is that most of the brickwork has been done, outside and in:

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The lower door and hatch, to the office, seen above, now have twins on the other side of the wall:

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Window sills are fitted outside and inside:P1280649.JPG.a644feb79f3e236fbbfb7f17f70abdb9.JPGP1280648.JPG.8fc738ea291380b3291317831be71f6a.JPG

 

(Wonky bit of brick there - I'll have to get the file out!) 

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10 hours ago, MrWolf said:

Impressive piece of construction, no mistaking it's Victorian railway architecture.

Thanks.

It's taking longer to build than I anticipated but I'm sure that it's time well spent.

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Another session with the Silhouette cutter today:

 

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Bottom left - A panelled and glazed screen (with a door in the centre) for the goods office. 

Above left - Its mirror image - to create a sandwich with glazing material between.

Top right - A panelled fascia for the public counter in the goods office.

The counter will be fixed to the lower right front of the screen to create an 'L' shaped barrier, and a small public area, just inside the office outer door.

Lower right - Another ten arches, for the windows, inside the main shed.

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I had a go at 'whitewashing' the inside of the goods shed today:P1280653.JPG.0182a481916717667e3f395f2d6e84bf.JPGP1280654.JPG.bb1f4cb0ea6d56076a6ed3ab7c2e8f95.JPGP1280656.JPG.c7fa916a3cc63675a10bc61c4076b717.JPG

 

Rather than pristine, painted walls I have tried to get a patchy, uneven and slightly faded surface.

 

Any thoughts on how it looks?

 

I am thinking of adding a dark coloured wash to get some grime in there.

 

Also some dark and light stone on doors, hatches and furnishings:P1280655.JPG.51e796b0e6902c51e50ec1de8c1bbe50.JPG

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This looks a bit rough when it's 'blown up' but will be mostly hidden inside the office.

 

Counter and partition waiting for 'Glue N Glaze':

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It looks bang on for old whitewash.

 

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This is part of my workshop wall. The building dates back to 1895.

 

I did a similar thing to you with my layouts weighbridge office.

 

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On 19/05/2021 at 18:45, ChrisN said:

The whitewashing looks fine to me, just a nice blend of there and washed off.  A wash of grime will make it look even better.

 

On 20/05/2021 at 00:03, MrWolf said:

It looks bang on for old whitewash.

 

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This is part of my workshop wall. The building dates back to 1895.

 

I did a similar thing to you with my layouts weighbridge office.

 

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Thanks for those comments, and all the responses to my post.

 

The shed would have been over 40 years old by the time of my modelling period. I don't know what timescales the GWR would have worked to for whitewash but, I guess, repainting the exterior and inside public areas would have been a higher priority.

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