RMweb Premium Sidecar Racer Posted April 20, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 20, 2020 13 hours ago, RJS1977 said: Azerbaijan held a "European" Grand Prix, and that's not an EU member state. But by the definition of a Europe/Asia border it is in Europe . See map . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sidecar Racer said: But by the definition of a Europe/Asia border it is in Europe . See map . That was my point - the objection had been raised that a British circuit could not host a European Grand Prix as we were no longer in the EU, I was just pointing out that it's a question of geography, not politics. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 18 hours ago, Pete the Elaner said: I find your reasoning sound, but wonder about how the governments weight the economic impact in their decisions on restrictions. Bottom line is that the decision will be made primarily on economic grounds, as that's the big factor the electorate generally remembers come election time. We surely notice if we are poorer, and the majority of the population will be in the 'not going to happen to me' mindset regarding risk of a personally bad outcome from one more infection among the many causes of mortality. There will be much modelling going on of the economic impacts of 'various options for returns to living and working normally' vs 'consequent impacts and losses due to Covid': at some point the outcomes for returning to normal activity will look more favourable, and off we go. There will be a new situation normal, with more expenditure required for healthcare - so expect a tax hit - and a sustained noticeably higher mortality rate until Covid has killed most of the vulnerable it can access. But this will not be the situation normal of 2019. There will be travel restrictions dependent on national decisions, and flying in particular will become much more expensive. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaeton Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 On 20/04/2020 at 13:51, 34theletterbetweenB&D said: That is, unless major governments and the WHO decide that the economic impact of travel restriction is too severe to bear I give you Mr Trump, what's a few millions deaths as long as world trade continues, collateral damage. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share Posted April 22, 2020 Lando and Cpt Tom, a McLaren fan https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/formula1/52368201 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 24, 2020 Formula E but may help quench the thirst so to speak https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/motorsport/52371729 How can I watch the Formula E Race at Home challenge? All times are subject to change... BBC Sport will have live coverage from all eight races of the Formula E Race at home challenge, culminating in the Grand Final on 7 June. Coverage will be available live on BBC iPlayer and the BBC Sport website and app and on-demand for 30 days. Full coverage details: Race one - Saturday 25 April, 16:20-17:00 Race two - Saturday 2 May, 16:20-17:00 Race three - Saturday 9 May, 16:20-17:00 Race four - Saturday 16 May, 16:20-17:00 Race five - Saturday 23 May, 16:20-17:00 Race six - Saturday 30 May, 16:20-17:00 Race seven - Saturday 6 June, 16:20-17:00 Race eight, Grand Final - Sunday 7 June, time tbc 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 On 22/04/2020 at 15:07, Phaeton said: I give you Mr Trump, what's a few millions deaths as long as world trade continues, collateral damage. Forget Trump (who might politely be described as 'seat of the pants man on steroids') and consider that the modelling will be done by responsible well educated people attempting to make the best possible compromises between the collateral damage from more infection, and the collateral damage consequent on economic failure. Having made the world into an economically interdependent village - whatever we may individually feel about the wisdom of that, we have to start from the truth of where we are - there's no way of just switching that off without consequent disaster to livelihoods on a truly gargantuan scale. (Just look at what the Mediterranean countries of the EU are lobbying for in the way of economic support after only a few weeks of shutdown; albeit they are attempting to bury much of their past under the Covid shroud...) And we should further keep in mind that there is a continuing need not just for our own national GDP wherever we may be in the world, but also for the funding to enable relief missions to support populations that were already experiencing disasters various - both of the natural kind and humanly created - without Covid's assistance. So significant numbers of people and large scale resources will need to be funded to that end too. And back to F1. Now, it comes to mind that some years past the late and sagacious Sir Stirling declared that Lewis was easily good enough to win five world championships with Mercedes. I wonder if the interruption of F1 may prove that he alighted upon the right number? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, 34theletterbetweenB&D said: easily good enough to win five world championships with Mercedes. I wonder if the interruption of F1 may prove that he alighted upon the right number? Except he’s already on 6 . . . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, PaulRhB said: Except he’s already on 6 . . . Sir Stirling declared that Lewis was easily good enough to win five world championships with Mercedes. 5 with Mercedes, 1 with McLaren. (Not powered by). 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted April 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 24, 2020 Saw on the sports news (not that there is much sport to report) that the draft has begun for American Football. F1 could be so much more interesting if the best drivers could be drafted in to some of the lesser teams. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 6 hours ago, Joseph_Pestell said: ... F1 could be so much more interesting if the best drivers could be drafted in to some of the lesser teams. You mean like Lewis at McLaren, Fred at Mclaren, Verstappen at Red Bull, Ricciardo at Red Bull and Renault, Leclerc at Ferrari, Raiko at Alfa? It happens naturally, doesn't need to be specially arranged. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaeton Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 15 hours ago, 34theletterbetweenB&D said: You mean like Lewis at McLaren, Fred at Mclaren, Verstappen at Red Bull, Ricciardo at Red Bull and Renault, Leclerc at Ferrari, Raiko at Alfa? It happens naturally, doesn't need to be specially arranged. Yeah but it's a Doodle idea they like to make simple things complicated to make themselves look good. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy100 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) British GP may happen in July "behind closed doors" - Are you a ticket holder and have you received the email? Edited April 27, 2020 by Bulleidboy100 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted April 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 28, 2020 On 24/04/2020 at 16:03, Joseph_Pestell said: Saw on the sports news (not that there is much sport to report) that the draft has begun for American Football. F1 could be so much more interesting if the best drivers could be drafted in to some of the lesser teams. Ditto the team principals, but much more fun if not done until half way through the season.... If you want to make things properly "interesting", bin qualifying (which long ago ceased to be) and start each race with the grid a reverse image of the finishing order of the previous race. John 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted April 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said: Ditto the team principals, but much more fun if not done until half way through the season.... If you want to make things properly "interesting", bin qualifying (which long ago ceased to be) and start each race with the grid a reverse image of the finishing order of the previous race. John I believe that some of the "lesser" series do something very similar, holding two races in the course of a meeting. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartMc Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said: If you want to make things properly "interesting", bin qualifying (which long ago ceased to be) and start each race with the grid a reverse image of the finishing order of the previous race. Make it an even more "interesting" start by being an exact mirror of the previous race finish with all the cars therefore facing backwards Really, though, the unintended consequence of this system would be chaos at the end of the race at the back of the grid everyone not likely to score points stops on the track to come last and get pole position next race. I suppose you could award points for all places (rather than just the top 10), but with the drop off of points you'd still dis-incentivise one of the most exciting aspects of the races - someone out of position near the back would no longer have nothing to lose - like Verstappen did in Brasil in 2016; rationally the best thing to do if a poor finish meant a good place on the grid next time would be to retire, rather than, as he did, absolutely go for it. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisr40 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, StuartMc said: Make it an even more "interesting" start by being an exact mirror of the previous race finish with all the cars therefore facing backwards Really, though, the unintended consequence of this system would be chaos at the end of the race at the back of the grid everyone not likely to score points stops on the track to come last and get pole position next race. I suppose you could award points for all places (rather than just the top 10), but with the drop off of points you'd still dis-incentivise one of the most exciting aspects of the races - someone out of position near the back would no longer have nothing to lose - like Verstappen did in Brasil in 2016; rationally the best thing to do if a poor finish meant a good place on the grid next time would be to retire, rather than, as he did, absolutely go for it. Just give points for qualifying and same for the race. But reverse the results of qualifying. If you drive well and make up positions from the back of the grid you get two lots of points. If you are a minnow team who struggles in qualifying you get no qual points but you do get exposure of starting at the front, a better chance of an upset and the viewer actually has no idea who will win and an entertaining spectacle for the first time in what feels like forever. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) I fear if reverse order grids were to become a thing the machinations of where the lesser teams get their pu's/aero/drivers &c. will be reminded to them in no uncertain terms. I've long been of the opinion a team that brings both cars over the finish line (regardless of position) should receive a point, as long as both are raceworthy, natch. C6T. Edited April 28, 2020 by Classsix T 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 6, 2020 A not-entirely-tongue-in-cheek assessment of What Happens Next. https://www.pitpass.com/66916/The-Cheques-In-The-Post 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted May 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 6, 2020 I don't no whether to give that a like or funny reaction. In the end its a like as others have done. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 BORDERS! (ffs, three times...) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/52612210 Silverstone playing games 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted May 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2020 https://sports.yahoo.com/vettel-leave-ferrari-end-media-000655665.html 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, ess1uk said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/52612210 Silverstone playing games I commented ages ago that Silverstone would not be able to afford a race. If there are going to be less races & behind closed doors anyway, then I hope they use some more interesting circuits instead. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Re6/6 said: https://sports.yahoo.com/vettel-leave-ferrari-end-media-000655665.html My guess is Ferrari now want him to be a no.2 to Leclerc & it is this which he refuses to accept. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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