Bulleidboy100 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Martin Brundle thinks he will "retire" at the end of the season? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 38 minutes ago, Bulleidboy100 said: Martin Brundle thinks he will "retire" at the end of the season? He should have done it before last season so as not to make himself look 2nd class to CL. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 Quote If the Vet doesn't retire, I wonder if he might join Kimi at Alfa?, with Kimi as No 2. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 So, where's the big money on that seat, maybe Ocon, Kyvatt, Schumacher Jnr? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/29165357/assessing-candidates-replace-vettel-ferrari 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Vettel I wouldnt be surprised if things dont go well as far as he is concerned . The big if ?? if the season ever starts, that he will just walk away or Ferrari simply dump him. Replacement who knows ?? there is no one special coming onto this season, that I am aware off. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisr40 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Andrew P said: So, where's the big money on that seat, maybe Ocon, Kyvatt, Schumacher Jnr? You missed the two Spaniards. My money would be there. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Radford Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 I'd bet on Schumacher Jnr. Ferrari will go with their heart not their head. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 Well that didn't take long. https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/29168923/sainz-set-replace-vettel-ferrari-2021-sources 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 That must have been a tough call between Sainz & Ricciardo. Sainz had a solid season last year. Ricciardo didn't really, but his car did not give him the chance to do so. The article points out that the vacancy left at McLaren is a possibiity for Ricciardo. It will be interesting to see how McLaren develop once racing begins. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Andrew P said: Well that didn't take long. https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/29168923/sainz-set-replace-vettel-ferrari-2021-sources Well, have Ferrari just got themselves a bargain? Interesting times ahead. As for Vettel - Seb who? I fancy that that's his F1 career over, and I don't think he'll be missed, tbh. Mark 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, MarkC said: As for Vettel - Seb who? I fancy that that's his F1 career over, and I don't think he'll be missed, tbh. He did an Orson Welles, starting at the top with Toro Rosso and then Red Bull in its ace years. He has since worked down into Ferrari, where he has demonstrated his fragility under pressure, and his sullen nature. No, he wouldn't be much missed. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaeton Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 i am surprised Ferrari want the internal competition, Sainz will not 'seed' to LeClerc he believes he can be a champion. Ricciardo to McLaren could be a good move as long as they can still go forward 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisr40 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Pete the Elaner said: That must have been a tough call between Sainz & Ricciardo. Sainz had a solid season last year. Ricciardo didn't really, but his car did not give him the chance to do so. The article points out that the vacancy left at McLaren is a possibiity for Ricciardo. It will be interesting to see how McLaren develop once racing begins. McLaren with a Mercedes lump next year will be a very tasty proposition. Fred did say we will learn his plans soon... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Chrisr40 said: McLaren with a Mercedes lump next year will be a very tasty proposition. Fred did say we will learn his plans soon... If by Fred, you mean Alonso, then I hope McLaren don't take him back, as that would destabilise not only Norris but the whole Team once again, F1 is better off without him, just the same as the Red Cars will be without the Vet. Edited May 13, 2020 by Andrew P 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didcot Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Confirmed Sainz to Ferrari and Danny Rik to McLaren. So just one Renault seat available for 2021. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaeton Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, didcot said: Confirmed Sainz to Ferrari and Danny Rik to McLaren. So just one Renault seat available for 2021. Link? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 It's on the BBC F1 website... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/52661201 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 On 13/05/2020 at 13:17, MarkC said: ...As for Vettel - Seb who? I fancy that that's his F1 career over, and I don't think he'll be missed, tbh. Those who thought him the business are likely to miss him I should think. I am glad he didn't retire with his 4x Red Bull powered championships. That allowed a realistic appraisal of his relative standing. Good enough driver to win races in sufficient quantity for the championship when the lead driver in a team with the stand out car in the field. Not able to win sufficient races for the championship when faced with equally capable competitors, both in the same car and in other equally good cars. So not in the top level, drivers that win the season from among a significantly competitive field, but next one down, very well able to make use of a car which has net competitive edge during a season. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaeton Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, 34theletterbetweenB&D said: Those who thought him the business are likely to miss him I should think. I am glad he didn't retire with his 4x Red Bull powered championships. That allowed a realistic appraisal of his relative standing. Good enough driver to win races in sufficient quantity for the championship when the lead driver in a team with the stand out car in the field. Not able to win sufficient races for the championship when faced with equally capable competitors, both in the same car and in other equally good cars. So not in the top level, drivers that win the season from among a significantly competitive field, but next one down, very well able to make use of a car which has net competitive edge during a season. So the same as Jenson Button, Damian Hill & James Hunt then? Edited May 14, 2020 by Phaeton 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Now here's a thing. Went to look at our Formula 1 2019 talking shop, and we were on page 18 by May 15th. This year, page 27. Hmmm. 14 hours ago, Phaeton said: So the same as Jenson Button, Damian Hill & James Hunt then? One time championship winners are in nothing like the same category. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocor Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 18 hours ago, 34theletterbetweenB&D said: Those who thought him the business are likely to miss him I should think. I am glad he didn't retire with his 4x Red Bull powered championships. That allowed a realistic appraisal of his relative standing. Good enough driver to win races in sufficient quantity for the championship when the lead driver in a team with the stand out car in the field. Not able to win sufficient races for the championship when faced with equally capable competitors, both in the same car and in other equally good cars. So not in the top level, drivers that win the season from among a significantly competitive field, but next one down, very well able to make use of a car which has net competitive edge during a season. That point of view could be argued against by his victory in the 2008 Italian Grand Prix in a Torro Rosso. Though a counter argument would be that was a outlier case, similar to Pastor Maldonado's win of the 2012 Spanish Grand Prix. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, rocor said: That point of view could be argued against by his victory in the 2008 Italian Grand Prix in a Torro Rosso. Though a counter argument would be that was a outlier case, similar to Pastor Maldonado's win of the 2012 Spanish Grand Prix. Or Panis at Monaco. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxUnpopuli Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Just a quick note in this thread... not exactly OT, but it's definitely well targetted. I have two complete unbuilt plastic model kits of Formula 1 cars... 1992 Williams Renault FW14B - Hasegawa FS-9 (1:24) (only assembly on this is the top inner front wishbone shrouds are glued to the nosecone halves.) 1998 McLaren Mercedes MP4/13 - Tamiya 20046 (1:20) (Untouched.) Both of them appear difficult to get hold of now. First dibs on these to RMWebbers, I'd prefer to send both together to one of you before I Ebay them. PMs please. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 19, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2020 The Vettel departure rumbles on, with various observers unimpressed at Ferrari letting him go. Even Jenson has had a go. https://www.pitpass.com/66967/Button-questions-VettelFerrari-split 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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