speed restriction Guidance required for location of permanent speed restriction signs (early 1960’s)

[paulontheball]

Hi, can the collective advise on the detail for permanent speed restriction signs please? - these are the yellow and black signs as per the attached pic - I’ve spent sometime googling but not found any clarity on the subject yet!

 

Period modelled is early 1960’s and location is a prototype on the Settle & Carlisle line - track plan pic also attached.

 

What would be the maximum speed for the yard and the relief siding?

 

Where would the signs be located?

 

Would there also be a speed restriction on the entrance to the station, or anywhere else?

 

Any advice gratefully received!

 

 

 

 

[Edwin_m]

The yard and relief siding are only accessible by reversing on the main line.  I don't think any permitted speed would be signed for these moves, as the driver would be propelling the train into a track that might be occupied and/or responding to hand signals from a guard or shunter.  

 

There is no intrinsic need for a speed restriction through a station.  There may be a specific reason such as a tight curve or a structure that can't withstand the loadings of trains at full speed.  I think either is unlikely on the S&C in that era.  

Edited January 1, 2020 by Edwin_m

[The Stationmaster]

Early 1960s the signs would have had the lettering in white, not yellow

[paulontheball]

Ok, many thanks for the advice folks, very much appreciated