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We have seen some constructive progress today, seems to be something about my modelling and hiding from the sun! About half way on the rake but do still require finer details and the brass wire replacements as previously mentioned. After some more picture looking I notice that the retaining bar is actually attached to the out edge of both the wagon end and door stay so that should make life a little easier.

 

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Finished the basics. Decided on 4 W1 and 9 W5. My understanding of the basic difference is the fact W1 are older and non-vacuumed where as the W5 are W1 converts and fitted with vacs. Happy and please do, to be corrected. Had a couple of the top irons to fix and missing one weight but in general a successful batch build. Now to let the cement harden off before messing them about any further. Hopefully the flats transfers will arrive tomorrow and that can be completed.

 

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Saturday turned out to be a pile of pants! One good thing that come out of it was these;

 

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I have been working with Simon from Old Time Workshop on the transfers for the warflats. Each pack contains enough for one wagon and all 5 numbers are genuine running numbers I found pictured from various sources. These are excellent quality and Simon was able to scale them to a perfect fit for the wagons I have built and to accurately represent how the wagons were liveried. If you want to build some wagons or just renumber your Bachmann ones then pop Simon a line for some, I am sure he'll have a couple left. He has a wide range of transfers and if you cannot find what you need email Simon and chat as I did, you may also come up with something fabulous. You can find him here; http://www.oldtimeworkshop.co.uk

(Disclaimer: I have no links just a very happy customer).

 

I will apply these later this week and show off the finished wagons.  In the meantime I need to get those little detail parts on the cattle wagons ready for priming.

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3 hours ago, Bluemonkey presents.... said:

Saturday turned out to be a pile of pants!

 

Saturdays often are! 

 

Nice work on those transfers, must feel good to know that others will be able to use them too.

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I forgot to mention that each pack of the transfers will renumber one wagon. There are five accurate running numbers alongside the correctly associated tare as researched.

 

Meanwhile it has been far too busy to complete the cattle wagons.

 

I have managed one more warflat though. This completes the two already loaded, so I can now finish the unloaded wagons without risking the delicate chains. I have for comparison the original kit and the more recently purchased kit from a different supplier. The differences are subtle but can be viewed more so in picture than the naked eye.  Both sides of the individual wagons also differ correct to prototype rather than mirror images as most wagons. This proved a little strange at times but you have to be careful.

 

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Warning! 

Don't try this at home. My inspired stiffening fix for the retaining bar across the cattle sides is not a great idea and makes more work and takes a very long time to complete one wagon. Result;

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Appearance is nice and finer than the original plastic or a replacement plastic rod. Not sure how much more robust it will prove but it does take some time and the feeling of not achieving anything is great. Considering plastic rod for the tie bars though, especially with plastic weld on the ties.

 

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Matt, I have a box of second-hand cattle vans made from this kit. All four of them have broken retaining bars and they are difficult to fix without it showing -  so even if it has taken time you may have saved yourself some irritation down the road.

 

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Thank you. Yes you are right better to spend the time now than have to later. I think if I had removed the bars and drill out shallow locating holes before fixing the ends it would have been a lot easier.

@Mikkel there were 'special cattle' wagons dia04 I think that are very very similar in appearance but have louvers filling the entire gap at the top and with planked sliding louver covers at the wagon base. that could be a useful dodge for at least one wagon. I did note that one is specifically for my chosen layout location as well. More specialist transfer required there then! I'll dig a picture out.

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On 08/08/2020 at 18:27, Bluemonkey presents.... said:

I forgot to mention that each pack of the transfers will renumber one wagon. There are five accurate running numbers alongside the correctly associated tare as researched.

 

Meanwhile it has been far too busy to complete the cattle wagons.

 

I have managed one more warflat though. This completes the two already loaded, so I can now finish the unloaded wagons without risking the delicate chains. I have for comparison the original kit and the more recently purchased kit from a different supplier. The differences are subtle but can be viewed more so in picture than the naked eye.  Both sides of the individual wagons also differ correct to prototype rather than mirror images as most wagons. This proved a little strange at times but you have to be careful.

 

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Fantastic! Very impressive

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All door bangs, retaining bars etc are now fixed. A couple a day keeps insanity away!

Whilst thinking about what to use to replace the tie bars, as I thought the brass wire would not only be a waste but also a little tricky to attached securely, I remembered @chuffinghell showing me some etched replacement tie bars from Cambrian . Unfortunately it appears the cattle wagons are 11ft wheelbase so these are not a product made but ordered some 12ft ones and if required I can take 0.5mm from each end.......................right?!!!!  Also the vac pipes for the nine with vacs need new pipes as the ones supplied in the kits are a bit crude and over scaled, in my opinion. This is the only downside to these kits that I can see. Quick scan of Lanarkshire Model Supplies (no connection just a very happy returning customer) range found some very suitable and also some lower pipes for coaching over over hanging load stock, ideal for potential future plans, snaffle some of those whilst there. So whilst the orders are delivered and the plastic weld hardens off I may have another go at those fiddly chains on the warflats or I may just sit back and have a full afternoon of rugby now the season has final resumed sadly poor light for the cricket on the radio at the moment, still F1 qualifying instead.......................oh what to do?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! And Moto GP qualifying  and and and and did someone say something about a kid in a sweet shop?

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Been a strange week; Whilst waiting for the tie bars and vac pipes to arrive I got amongst a stash of pre-printed open wagon kits. The kits a mix of Slaters and Parkside but all via Powsides already printed. Really enjoyable builds a little frustrating that not must inner detail and some have only been painted one side meaning plenty of potential risk to run the finish when painting the inside. Had hoped to have these as empties but will probably have to load up due to the lack of detail features. All of a sudden my workbench looks like a result of a small explosion in a model shop! 

 

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You may spot that the tie bars and vac pipes have arrived. The pipes are fantastic casts as are the etches for the tie bars. Unfortunately the tie bars are much too long for the wagons and I know the next size down are far too short so I need another cunning plan. In the meantime I have some more preprint wagon kits to play with.

 

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Always nice to see a busy workbench. Think I can spot 'the big black bottle' of Vallejo primer.

 

How are you finding the Powsides preprinted sides? I dug some old ones out recently and while they look good from a distance, I noticed that the fine print was actually not legible/blurred. I wonder if they are all like that or if I was unlucky.

 

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On 24/08/2020 at 05:37, Mikkel said:

Always nice to see a busy workbench. Think I can spot 'the big black bottle' of Vallejo primer.

 

How are you finding the Powsides preprinted sides? I dug some old ones out recently and while they look good from a distance, I noticed that the fine print was actually not legible/blurred. I wonder if they are all like that or if I was unlucky.

 

Just for you my friend, a cheeky close up, its the large bottle of black. I bought this to replace my original black from Humbrol and this has proved a decent match for the Halfords spray I use of large jobs.

 

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Regarding the pre-printed sides I think it very much depends on the sizing of the wagon and the amount of detail for the wagon liveries. I have pictured each one individually from a very similar distance, angle and light. The Nationally Colliery and Arthur Day are Slaters pre-printed and the rest are from Powsides. The two larger wagons, Dunkerton and Ricketts, are Parkside and have a small amount of inner detailing. Having touched up the odd weld mark and areas where the pre-colouring has missed almost ready for service. I do need to add couplings and decide what to do about the interior and/or loads.

 I specially chose the Powsides kits as I have pictorial evidence of each of the wagons (number may be different for the further afield ones) on my layout location so in my eyes a must have. I give you a load of pre-prints for your consideration;

 

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Many thanks Matt.

 

Well those look good, it's only the tare that isn't quite crisp. I suppose we have become used to the high standards of current RTR printing. 

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Set about he fiddly job of the tie bars and vac pipes (for some) on the cattle wagons. I have used the Cambrian bars shortening them by cutting the rivet detailing so these can be used for something else another time. Not exactly what I was hoping for although seems OK and once painted will rarely be studied. The vac pipes are lovely and virtually no flash.DSCF0069.JPG.6616a6f9c30e213d2c209c352907a69e.JPG  DSCF0070.JPG.c860036aef542a9babf370339fda5e50.JPG

 

 

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Wow time flies when you are..... well lets just say time flies!

 

Cattle wagons primed and ready for painting although had a nightmare with my Railmatch paint being lumpy and blocking my airbrush so only got four done (badly) before complete strip down. So now trying to find a decent substitute match from Vallejo as this range I love using and provides excellent results with either airbrushes or standard brush painting and is now my preferred paint. Unfortunately it appears that my 'local' stockist is a mere 80ish mile round trip via A roads! I only want a bottle of grey that matches GWR freight grey. With the mileage and the likely paint cost it works out about £1.65 per ml.

 

Although I think the brass replacements for the retaining and tie bars works. Would love options/thoughts please? W1 pictured just in view is a W5 with vacs. What do you think of the vac pipe. I am very happy with the quality they are superb, in my opinion.

 

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You will see in the back ground I have some N13 loco coal wagons I made up a long time ago whilst work was slow -_- So I  have put my frustration to good use. Fixed the problem with the bearing location and replaced the wheels. Couplings added...........yes couplings added I'm getting dizzy and everything. Transfers from Railtec arrived for the 6 pack of loco coal wagons, just to ensure they are the numbers I need (should have done this prior to placing the order, like I said dizzy). Now, before any furthe activity I have another 6 pack to progress on before anything else. I must delete the last couple of days!

 

Recently I had one of those significant days, not a land mark just an annual! So I was allowed a little something; (showing off now) this is my next project before getting on the with breakdown and mail trains (promise ;))

 

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38 minutes ago, Bluemonkey presents.... said:

Although I think the brass replacements for the retaining and tie bars works. Would love options/thoughts please?

 

Well for what it's worth I think they work very well. You're clearly on a roll here :)

 

40 minutes ago, Bluemonkey presents.... said:

I have a number of WW1 railway items now and a Deans with panniers in my mind but that is long term thought.

 

With all the projects you've got going, this is probably evil - but I can't resist: http://www.wdmodels.com/ 

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