NewSiding Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 54 minutes ago, letterspider said: Take a look at the pantographs on the Accurascale Class 92 or the Bachmann 90 - a good quality and precise pantograph can be done in metal but my guess is it would add £10 - 20 to the motor car. Mind you after upwards of £400 you are not going to quibble over £10-20 provided you smile every time you look at your model? yes would definitely be happy to spend extra £20 for a metal pantograph. The NDM power car is quite a bit cheaper at £133 than other Hornby locos ( ok, it doesn't have windows, buffers or lights). So I think Hornby should have put a better pantograph on as there was scope to increase the price a little I think. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 7 hours ago, E100 said: Overall I'm very pleased with the set. The paint is generally perfect for me. The data panel on the power car is v/. impressive. Looks the part. Most of the capacitors have been placed somewhat sensibly so won't require moving just maybe camouflaging a bit on the coaches I've got (no intermediate pure seating trailers). It's great they are allowing you to build full sets with all the different coaches. The APT-U coach is probably the best detailed one but the capacitor really frustrates me on that one and I think that will be the one I do look to change. That being said the price does mean this had to be the flagship Hornby product and I don't think it is. Improvements for me I will be taking this on and off the track a bit and therefore the propitiatory couplings are not ideal. I wish they had at least put NEM pockets on and through wiring would have obviously have been preferable. The etched grills whilst nice are not fitted as well as I'd like with a varying gap around some. Cab lighting and 1 DCC chip. It's 2022 guys come on. The pantograph isn't great all round really. Pickup improvement. In short I've banged on about it previously but now having it has confirmed that the through wiring of this would have been a substantial improvement. It may be that longer term I look to do this. Mine arrived today! I think these are fair points. The couplings are really annoying. Can’t wait for the Hunt magnetic ones to arrive! But overall I’m very pleased. And especially pleased I got a extra powered MDM. Really needs it over 9 cars! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRail642fan Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, miles73128 said: Mine arrived today! I think these are fair points. The couplings are really annoying. Can’t wait for the Hunt magnetic ones to arrive! But overall I’m very pleased. And especially pleased I got a extra powered MDM. Really needs it over 9 cars! atleast you got to run yours, my one, brand new mind you, arrived today with a burned out motor already Edited January 25, 2022 by WestRail642fan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 25, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2022 So Hornby have wired up the driving trailer coach lights but not through the decoder so I’ve had to take them apart to switch off the daft fusion lighting! There’s a gurt big circuit board for the front lights but they haven’t bothered to wire the interior lights to F1 or 2! I’ve disabled the lighting as it’s far too bright for daylight and I don’t run in the dark as it means there’s a power cut! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRail642fan Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 NDM might be busted, but atleast i got to run some of my APT, with help from my class 91 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodrog1826 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 14 hours ago, PaulRhB said: So Hornby have wired up the driving trailer coach lights but not through the decoder so I’ve had to take them apart to switch off the daft fusion lighting! There’s a gurt big circuit board for the front lights but they haven’t bothered to wire the interior lights to F1 or 2! I’ve disabled the lighting as it’s far too bright for daylight and I don’t run in the dark as it means there’s a power cut! I can sort of see Hornby's thinking on this. If DCC allows you to control the internal lights in just the driving trailers and not the rest of the set, then it will look odd. Just a thought on the matter. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 19 hours ago, WestRail642fan said: its arrived. I did how ever had to re attatch the pantograph on the non powered NDM as ot had unclipped from its base I’m loving the retro packaging from 1981 ! Brings back fond memories.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodrog1826 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 17:29, Ducking Giraffe said: Silly me, expected to pay a fixed pre-order price? So I placed a pre-order with Hattons in early 2020 for a 7 car set and for some reason they cancelled it. Never knew why, they didn't say. So placed and paid for an order with Jadam November 2020 for 7 car set @ £439.49 Now get an invocie for an extra 63.50 to put it up to £499. Was I daft in expecting the pre-order price to remain the same, has anyone got a 7 car set set for less than £499? For a minute I thought about cancelling and ordering an NDM though Hornby, getting a % discount and applying that to a 7 car set from them, but it won't work out less I think. =sigh=- That Brighton Belle and those two 1980s APTs have got to go... (one yellow one black) PS not having a go at anyone , honest. I potentially have one for £480.00, having had an e mail from my supplier confirming my order is still valid at the price and my position in the queue of pre orders. It's all down to how many they get and if they have enough to get my pre order position filled. Have to say i was expecting to be notified of a price increase prior to dispatch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted January 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) On 26/01/2022 at 08:21, rob D2 said: I’m loving the retro packaging from 1981 ! Brings back fond memories.. Polystyrene in 1981 Edited March 31, 2022 by RedgateModels 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 26, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, Nodrog1826 said: I can sort of see Hornby's thinking on this. If DCC allows you to control the internal lights in just the driving trailers and not the rest of the set, then it will look odd. Just a thought on the matter. I don’t think there was thinking it reminds me of student projects where your tutor said “but what about . . “ That was rather reinforced by the tv programme where they put so much emphasis on young designers who inevitably focus on the physical detail and they miss some of the other technical detail. It suggests to me they needed an experienced designer to go over it, mind you a better design brief would have addressed it too. Just looks like they said just use the standard light strip and there was no other thought put into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodrog1826 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, WestRail642fan said: NDM might be busted, but atleast i got to run some of my APT, with help from my class 91 A sort of APT-S mock up then. https://www.apt-p.com/APTConfigurations.htm Edited January 26, 2022 by Nodrog1826 Link added 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium E100 Posted January 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2022 54 minutes ago, Nodrog1826 said: A sort of APT-S mock up then. https://www.apt-p.com/APTConfigurations.htm Arguably closer to even the APT-Q with the NDM and DAV4 rolled into one as a class 91. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted January 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2022 It has arrived. Called in at Arcadia Models in Shaw at lunchtime as I needed some paint, they had APT in stock so I collected mine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 29 minutes ago, ColinK said: It has arrived. Called in at Arcadia Models in Shaw at lunchtime as I needed some paint, they had APT in stock so I collected mine. Both versions? Still waiting for news of the 5 car set in shops Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRail642fan Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, E100 said: Arguably closer to even the APT-Q with the NDM and DAV4 rolled into one as a class 91. Using the 91 since my NDM is broken fresh from box, gotta send that back to Hornby for repairs, but my plan in the future is to motorize the second dummy NDM and mod the couplings to work with the new MK4 DVT Hornby are making Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted January 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, andyman7 said: Both versions? Still waiting for news of the 5 car set in shops One at TMC https://www.themodelcentre.com/r3873-Hornby-oo-gauge-br-class-370-advanced-passenger-train-sets-370-003-and-370-004-5-car-pack-era-7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted January 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2022 Like this ….. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Great, shouldn't be long to complete my set then! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroborus Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Collected mine from Derails earlier. Waiting for my wife to go out before unboxing 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted January 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2022 Quite right too . Mine's on it's way... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted January 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Ouroborus said: Collected mine from Derails earlier. Waiting for my wife to go out before unboxing I'm going to collect mine from Derails tomorrow. Only need to sort out 3 more baseboards, so it might be a while before I can run it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanN91 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Both my sets have now arrived the 8 individual coach packs and second NDM is put away at the moment. They both look stunning. I'm really pleased! especially the City of Derby NDM. I'm probably being too picky Although the top right hand corner box of the 7 car set it arrived with a tiny split in the top right corner of the box but no where else. Will that affect its value at all? I've not had this with new train packs before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted January 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) Had the test track up at the model railway club - radius 2 - runs beautifully. Edited January 26, 2022 by ColinK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 26, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, RyanN91 said: . Will that affect its value at all? I've not had this with new train packs before. Yes it’s worth about £4.59 now So enjoy playing with it instead Anyone who’s that bothered by a tiny split when it’s secondhand will be equally fussy about the train so they can be fun to deal with. I had to photograph all corners of a box for some Corgi I sold but fair do to the bloke he paid top price in a bidding war and shipping and left excellent feedback as I’d put about nine layers of bubble wrap around it! If you bought it as an investment don’t run it either but it’s not really worth worrying about if you bought it for the model to run. 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
letterspider Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) Capacitor moved and passengers added. The tables have holes beneath them so you don't have to cut off the legs of your passengers Edited January 26, 2022 by letterspider 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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