RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted March 26, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2021 I’ve sent a email to Hornby again to ask the question about if motorising the second NDM in the R3874 set is necessary for a full 14 coach set as they replied they wouldn’t know until they tested it last time. Hopefully according to the auto reply there will be a response in a week or so. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXDH92 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Does look good - and they've modelled the SF panto as well, so looks like both options will be available. That SF pantograph looks really good, if a little odd in the lowered position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Piranha750 Posted March 26, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26, 2021 Still has a few things wrong with it mainly the cabside window frames are missing and the front windscreen frame looks strange, the lights on the front look wrong and also the drivers desk should be blue not read, I really hope they put the cabside window frames on the tooling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Piranha750 Posted March 26, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26, 2021 The black of the mask should also extend onto the lift off nose part too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted March 26, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Piranha750 said: The black of the mask should also extend onto the lift off nose part too. Have you emailed Hornby about it though? Don’t assume they will read every post customerservices.uk@Hornby.com They say a few things left to do in the text but worth alerting them to the paint issues, the tooling is highly likely to be signed off already and the lights look to be just not installed right as this is a paint sample. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, Piranha750 said: Still has a few things wrong with it mainly the cabside window frames are missing and the front windscreen frame looks strange, the lights on the front look wrong and also the drivers desk should be blue not read, I really hope they put the cabside window frames on the tooling. 17 minutes ago, Piranha750 said: The black of the mask should also extend onto the lift off nose part too. The TES Team have actually provided an email ID for people to give feedback. I'm sure the feedback will be more useful to Hornby rather than us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey28 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) Has anyone noticed the dent in the front? I'm not sure on the front and side windows And yes the cab interior should be blue .and should the sides be grey not black? I hope the put things right before the model is released Edited March 26, 2021 by Monkey28 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Monkey28 said: Has anyone noticed the dent in the front? I'm not sure on the front and side windows And yes the cab interior should be blue . I hope the put things right before the model is released I'll refer you to @PaulRhB's post..... The dent on the front is most likely from the pin that released the newly formed moulded parts in the machine. It is more obvious when the plastic hasn't cooled enough and is warm enough to have it's shape changed with even a little pressure. 36 minutes ago, PaulRhB said: Have you emailed Hornby about it though? Don’t assume they will read every post customerservices.uk@Hornby.com They say a few things left to do in the text but worth alerting them to the paint issues, the tooling is highly likely to be signed off already and the lights look to be just not installed right as this is a paint sample. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted March 26, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Monkey28 said: Has anyone noticed the dent in the front? it’s a sink mark from a cold mould, that’s all. Edit: as said above the plastic was hot where the injection is and with a test shot it’s obviously been pulled a bit fast and sunk there while the rest cooled fast enough as the mould extremities were cooler. Not unusual and as they note it’s a paint sample not a production sample. Quote I'm not sure on the front and side windows And yes the cab interior should be blue .and should the sides be grey not black? Looks grey compared to the nose on my screen. Quote I hope the put things right before the model is released Again have you emailed Hornby? Edited March 26, 2021 by PaulRhB 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
letterspider Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 perhaps that is a release mechanism which allows the nose to lift up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Could be the position of a stand off for a screw or a mounting but as others have said its likely just a sink mark from when it was moulded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazwire Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Looks great to me - really excited. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanN91 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Wow the APT-P looks stunning! The printed destination board! and the City of Derby power car. I was worried that it might look too modern but thankfully it doesn't ! ( that might not make sense, or be confusing ) I will compare the City of Derby power car to the 1980 model! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterCitySpud Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 12 hours ago, letterspider said: perhaps that is a release mechanism which allows the nose to lift up? Sorry if I've missed it but does the nose actually lift up? There seems to be a clear line where it suggests it's possible. I had to hack the nose off my original one as it will need to be towed some most of the time. I reckon it will look fantastic being pulled by a very grubby blue Duff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) I suspect that nose is part of the lower section as the break line doesn't seem to go downwards*. That would make sense, keeping the front lights as part of the chassis, not needing jumper cables between body and chassis. * Hmm, other views show it might. Still it might still attach to the lower part rather than the upper to simplify the lighting arrangement. Edited March 27, 2021 by BernardTPM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRail642fan Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 On 25/03/2021 at 13:02, InterCity80s said: They're all showing as back available for pre-order now: https://uk.Hornby.com/catalogue/collections/apt right as i spent the last of my money on getting my car fixed.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 In the livery sample the nose looks to be a separate item so could contain a nem pocket underneath for coupling to a loco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanN91 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) Yes I'm sure when it is released the cab will be blue here is hoping anyway it would be amazing if underneath the nose ends there is super detail with buffers etc. Although as previously mentioned here I think this would envitably mean that would more expensive modifications to the 370 tooling DTS' and it would cost more than the RRP. Also Hornby do make BR Class 43 HST power cars with and without buffers and So inless there is high demand for some tooled APT DTS with lifted nose cones. I don't think we will see this. Although I could be completely 100% wrong on the lifted cones buffers etc. As I've previously mentioned Personally I'm just please we are eventually getting a new super detailed APT-P. As for many years as each year passed it was looking increasingly highly unlikely that we would ever get a re-run of the older now scrapped tooling. Let alone a new super detailed two full 14 rake with the APT-Ps one with yellow ends and one with APT-P livery window surrounds and even more the exciting the APT-P development coach. Edit: Ah I have just seen more auto typos DTS not DVT when I posted about the BR MK4 Coaches and DVT it auto changed to DTS but I noticed that at the time. So to clarify if I post on APT-P I mean to say DTS Not DVT and if it's about DVTs MK3 or MK4 or Br class 91s or intercity 225 and it says DTS you'll know its an auto typo. Edited March 29, 2021 by RyanN91 DVT DTS auto typos fixed. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazwire Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Any pictures of the apt development coach anyone, real life if potential model? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanN91 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 59 minutes ago, gazwire said: Any pictures of the apt development coach anyone, real life if potential model? Here is a photo of it also useful links from the APT-P.https://www.apt-p.com/APTConfigurations.htm https://www.apt-p.com/RDB977527.htm 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazwire Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 9 hours ago, RyanN91 said: Here is a photo of it also useful links from the APT-P.https://www.apt-p.com/APTConfigurations.htm https://www.apt-p.com/RDB977527.htm Many thanks Ryan N91 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBird Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Apologies if I've missed this, but do we know what the DCC options are? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted March 28, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, DavidBird said: Apologies if I've missed this, but do we know what the DCC options are? Dcc ready, so Hornby 8 pin is usual, but no details of through wiring vs separate decoders. Like the nose there’s been no info about technical details and if there are end coupling options so far. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John ks Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, PaulRhB said: Apologies if I've missed this, but do we know what the DCC options are? 2 hours ago, PaulRhB said: but no details of through wiring vs separate decoders. Looking at the coupling on the power car I can see no electrical connection in that coupling That would suggest that you would need 1 decoder for each DT & 1 for each powered power car So a 2+1+2 would require 3 decoders & a 2+2+2 would require 4 decoders (If both power cars are powered)(adding extra Articulated coaches to make a 6+2+6 for example shouldn't require extra decoders) This was brought up early in this chat but I don't recall an answer from Hornby I have 2 original APT-P's one is a 2+1+2 & has 3 decoders & the other is a 2+2+5 & has 4 decoders John Edited March 28, 2021 by John ks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted March 28, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, John ks said: Looking at the coupling on the power car I can see no electrical connection in that coupling no I agree but waiting confirmation as it’s a test sample. Don’t know what’s happening with the quotes in your post but the first quote was David, not me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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