RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted July 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, atom3624 said: I was thinking that. Would it have been 2 + 1 seating? Al. Looks to be for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APT-P Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, atom3624 said: Would it have been 2 + 1 seating? The first of those pictures is of the interior of a TU dining car - so yes it had 2+1 seating. The second is of a Trailer Brake First again 2+1 seating. Second class vehicles were 2+2. Rob 1 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APT-P Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Seating layouts of all the APT-P vehicles can be found by following the links from this page of my website - http://www.apt-p.com/APTPVehicleSpec.htm Rob 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 First time I had noticed but there's only one exit door on each tide of the coaches, and the driving trailer has a passenger door only on one side. Break glass windows provided for emergency presumably? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 But it's almost the same as a Voyager or a Pendelino, and for the same reason. If the body tilts it has to be that shape or you'd smite the bridges and signals etc. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APT-P Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said: Break glass windows provided for emergency presumably? Hammers to break windows were behind pull-off covers in each coach - no 'special' escape windows like some modern trains have. Edited July 3, 2021 by APT-P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Mr_Tilt said: But it's almost the same as a Voyager or a Pendelino, and for the same reason. If the body tilts it has to be that shape or you'd smite the bridges and signals etc. Or of course you could modify the bridges and signal so they slope away from track ... after all they were prepared to raise a lot of them when they put the overhead wires in. Edited July 3, 2021 by Michael Hodgson typo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Michael Hodgson said: Or of course you could modify the bridges and signal so they slope away from track ... after all they were prepared to raise a lot of them when they put the overhead wires in. Hi Michael, Or just build a complete new railway which would probably be an awful lot easier. Gibbo. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodnok Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 40 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said: Or just build a complete new railway which would probably be an awful lot easier. Yup, if you are going to do civil engineering work, straightening the track is a better use of money than widening existing bridges. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted July 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 3, 2021 6 hours ago, Mr_Tilt said: But it's almost the same as a Voyager or a Pendelino, and for the same reason. If the body tilts it has to be that shape or you'd smite the bridges and signals etc. And the first time I used a Pendelino that’s exactly the impression I got…..oh…aircraft fuselage. The bridges will gradually wear away and rubber signals would be fine 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Derby 1978 by Hugh Searle 1977 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aureol40012 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) On 26/06/2021 at 21:41, jonnyuk said: what a bloody waste.....public sector both then and now have too much money, they think nothing of tossing things away or scraping things because right now its not vogue or takes too much out of a budget, its all about the now, not the 10-20 years down the line. maybe we should scrap democracy There speaks someone who probably wouldn’t last a week in the public sector……! Edited July 3, 2021 by aureol40012 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Wonderful set of pics of the P-Train at the C&W Works Open Day. I missed that as I'd left BR a few months earlier and was living in Berlin at the time. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Piewalker Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) It really is a fabulous looking train. Livery and shape in harmony. Edited July 8, 2021 by Luke Piewalker Typo 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac1874 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Still showing as July release on Hornby's coming soon section of the website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 2 hours ago, ac1874 said: Still showing as July release on Hornby's coming soon section of the website. Wasn’t September mentioned further up this thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 10, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 25/06/2021 at 09:17, Derails Models said: In the last day or so we enquired about the prospective release dates for these models, we've been told September for all of the variants (5/7 car and coaches). HTH :-) Dan answered the question by checking with Hornby, the ‘coming soon’ section is known to be inaccurate and a reliable retailer has already gone to the trouble of asking so I’d go with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRail642fan Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Wolf27 said: Wasn’t September mentioned further up this thread? Late September for the add on coaches, Late July for the 5 car and 7 car packs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 10, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 10, 2021 4 hours ago, WestRail642fan said: Late September for the add on coaches, Late July for the 5 car and 7 car packs As above from a retailer asking because of your previous post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 To be fair, there have been contradictory messages about the 5/7 car sets if you read back a couple of pages. Keeping an open mind for now and fingers crossed for July fulfilment (at least for those orders placed direct with the Hornby website which is still showing a July delivery). Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 10, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, lyneux said: To be fair, there have been contradictory messages about the 5/7 car sets if you read back a couple of pages. That’s why Dan rang Hornby, in response to the first post about July. It looks like someone gave out the July info at Hornby but Dan’s is the latest official response and just read the amount of changes on the coming soon list in other threads on the W1’s and Pecketts. It’s a pretty pointless list recently as the dates are bouncing around like an accident in a rubber ball factory. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleander Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 At least it looks like it will be comming out in the correct order . The 5 and 7 train pack first and add on coachs later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 8 hours ago, oleander said: At least it looks like it will be comming out in the correct order . The 5 and 7 train pack first and add on coachs later. Not exactly. If you read the post from Derails, the latest is all packs are due in September. Personally my guess is that the way things are going i wouldnt be surprised if that slips again into october or november. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRail642fan Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 20 hours ago, PaulRhB said: That’s why Dan rang Hornby, in response to the first post about July. It looks like someone gave out the July info at Hornby but Dan’s is the latest official response and just read the amount of changes on the coming soon list in other threads on the W1’s and Pecketts. It’s a pretty pointless list recently as the dates are bouncing around like an accident in a rubber ball factory. by Dan, are you refering to me or someone else called Dan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 11, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2021 35 minutes ago, WestRail642fan said: by Dan, are you refering to me or someone else called Dan? Dan of Derails Models as the quoted post 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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