Hornby APT (2020 tooling)

[AMac]

Looks good for replacing the old caps with the super caps.

 

Following up on my comment from a week ago,  the lights are definitely brighter on the older 2020 version. See below - the TBF on the left is the 2023 version and the TU on the right is the 2020 version   [Edit: Correction - the TU on the left side is the 2020 version and the DTS on the right is the 2023]. It's more obvious in the flesh but the 2020 lights glare more. It would be nice to reduce the glare - has anyone tried that?

 

 

 

Edited March 24 by AMac
correction

[25kV]

I've had a pile of supers delivered this morning - thanks to recent posters in this thread for finding out the sizes and giving them a try!  I probably won't modify the set I've completed (gangway relocation for the oil-drum cap), but it will hopefully make the next set much easier to fix up.  🙂 👍

[E100]

On 20/03/2024 at 19:50, zoomer1979 said:

Hi all,

Successful installation of the first super capacitor. I got the 22f ,5.5v and it was fitted in place of the 45 gallon drum capacitor that Hornby supplied. Lost patience after 5 mins waiting on the lights dying off!

Have ordered the balance from China, so a wee while to wait. But between the pinpoint bearings, low friction pickups and some through wiring, I hope I now have an ultimate version of the APT-P.

Neil.

 

Would you be up for sharing how you've done these modifications or linking either to other posts/videos etc?

[E100]

On 25/03/2024 at 11:35, E100 said:

 

Would you be up for sharing how you've done these modifications or linking either to other posts/videos etc?

 

Jump a bump for this if it's possible as I'm just looking at options myself @zoomer1979

[zoomer1979]

On 09/04/2024 at 09:15, E100 said:

 

Jump a bump for this if it's possible as I'm just looking at options myself @zoomer1979

Where to start. Wheels, all removed and split to put on the low friction axle based pickups from DCC Concepts, gauge then checked when put back on. Stepped pinpoint axle bearings fitted into bogie frames after opening existing holes to take them. When wheel sets put back in, insured to fit one for each polarity, one set to pick up left rail, the other right rail, use existing wiring for now to power coach lights.

My set is fully fitted with DCC sound, so there are speakers in the driving trailers and NDMs. I found previously that I can switch the coach lights using the purple wire from the ESU V5 chips, so these will be through wired from the driving ends of each half.

In terms of through connections I have planned to put through the purple for the coach lights, a track power bus and a pair of speaker wires that will carry the sound of the tilt pumps to each coach. This was recorded from the sound chips onto a generic birthday card sound chip and loops every 20secs when activated. Not got control for it yet, but I'm thinking magic wand.

Finally, just taken delivery of the rest of the super capacitors to do every intermediate coach with a proper anti flicker, the wired through purple wire will activate them anyway.

Interior will be detailed and painted with the correct colours as per @cheshirelines and others.

That's it I think. A lot of work I shouldn't have had to do, but everyone has there own levels of expectations.

 

Regards

 

Neil.

 

P.S. I remember taking photos of the bogies but can't find where I posted them. Maybe a PM, but not in this thread as far as I can tell.

[E100]

Thanks for the info that's great to know. When you know which connectors you plan to use let me know.

 

I've been thinking either a JST type or a USB 3.0 Type A or Micro HDMI connector (as below) attached to the floor somehow and then a short cable between them with some form of corridor seal.

[GrumpyPenguin]

Depending on the poles required the Roco 40345 is a possibility and there is/was a German/Austrian company Kroiss that produce, IIRC 6 pole couplings.

[E100]

23 hours ago, GrumpyPenguin said:

Depending on the poles required the Roco 40345 is a possibility and there is/was a German/Austrian company Kroiss that produce, IIRC 6 pole couplings.

 

I don't think this would have enough poles (for what I want to do at least and is quite expensive though is certainly an interesting and nearly rtr option. Given me some ideas for some older Bachmann DMU's.

[GrumpyPenguin]

3 hours ago, E100 said:

 

I don't think this would have enough poles (for what I want to do at least and is quite expensive though is certainly an interesting and nearly rtr option. Given me some ideas for some older Bachmann DMU's.

Kroiss do in fact produce an 8-pole Conductive Coupling, even more expensive though.

 

https://krois-modell.at/en/Krois-Modell-Own-production/Conductor-Couplers/Couplers-H0/Krois-Modell-H0-Current-carrying-coupling-8-pole-MKS-8::31056.html

 

Their website is a dangerous place for European Modellers to visit............

[E100]

5 hours ago, GrumpyPenguin said:

Kroiss do in fact produce an 8-pole Conductive Coupling, even more expensive though.

 

https://krois-modell.at/en/Krois-Modell-Own-production/Conductor-Couplers/Couplers-H0/Krois-Modell-H0-Current-carrying-coupling-8-pole-MKS-8::31056.html

 

Their website is a dangerous place for European Modellers to visit............

 

That is superb. Won't work for the APT for me but looks incredible for some projects I've got in mind.

[Ducking Giraffe]

This is what i did on  Eurostar coaches and micro JST connectors.

Started sticking the leds to the roof. This meant the wires were too long. This altered the cornering as there was to much wire between coaches.

Switched to wickes trunking with leds on a strip and shorter leads.  

 

[WestRail642fan]

15 hours ago, Ducking Giraffe said:

This is what i did on  Eurostar coaches and micro JST connectors.

Started sticking the leds to the roof. This meant the wires were too long. This altered the cornering as there was to much wire between coaches.

Switched to wickes trunking with leds on a strip and shorter leads.  

 

funnily enough, i had plans to use similer micro connectors on my 7 car pack APT, still not gotten around to it however