RMweb Gold flockandroll Posted January 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) Bit of an odd question perhaps, but can each bogie of the Hornby Class 50 manage to turn enough to be able to run on parallel tracks? Amongst the younger generation this kind of thing is known as "train drifting", and sometimes happens in real life by accident if someone changes the points at the wrong moment (I have seen a great picture of a carriage on a preserved railway in this predicament but can't find it now), but often in train hisimulators, and occasionally on layouts... (my son is only young and it's fun) (Explanation: We're looking to remotor a Lima class 50 to get rid of the traction tyres, and I'm wondering if it's worth looking out for a Hornby class 50 with a less than perfect body... (or Hornby Rovex class 37 power bogies? Peter's Spares only have Hornby Railroad class 37 spare bogies with traction tyres)) Edited January 9, 2020 by flockandroll Insert "Rovex" in Hornby class 37 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted January 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2020 If the tracks are close enough then possibly. The bogie doesn’t swing a great amount. Probably 15-20 degrees at most id say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted January 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2020 Train drifting ? Each to there own I suppose Just out of interest, what are your reasons for wanting to rid yourself of traction tyres on the Lima 50? I'm thinking you are making a fair amount of work (and expense) for yourself when the Lima mechanism is probably better suited to a youngster having a bit of fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 You do need a good degree of swivel on the bogies. I'm not sure any UK model has enough swivel. Its not a good thing to be doing and I don't approve of such things......unless it is out in the sunshine. USA Trains GP38s do have plenty of swivel on their power trucks. I initially did this by accidentally changing the point at the wrong time and was surprised to see the loco come round the bend running perfectly well on two tracks so I had a little play. 5 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2020 Use a Lima one, the unpowered bogie has more swing than the Hornby one. Though the power bogie only really goes by less than 20 degrees or so. easier to do it with a coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold flockandroll Posted January 10, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2020 Was trying to completely ban plastic wheels and rubber traction tyres... May just have to accept the Lima traction tyres after all. Great video! My son says he has watched it before! Thanks to all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 14 hours ago, Chris M said: You do need a good degree of swivel on the bogies. I'm not sure any UK model has enough swivel. Its not a good thing to be doing and I don't approve of such things......unless it is out in the sunshine. USA Trains GP38s do have plenty of swivel on their power trucks. I initially did this by accidentally changing the point at the wrong time and was surprised to see the loco come round the bend running perfectly well on two tracks so I had a little play. Why did I think of your trains & video as soon as I started reading the OP..??? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, F-UnitMad said: Why did I think of your trains & video as soon as I started reading the OP..??? Maybe because I’m well known for being daft. :) 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 On 10/01/2020 at 06:55, Chris M said: You do need a good degree of swivel on the bogies. I'm not sure any UK model has enough swivel. Its not a good thing to be doing and I don't approve of such things......unless it is out in the sunshine. USA Trains GP38s do have plenty of swivel on their power trucks. I initially did this by accidentally changing the point at the wrong time and was surprised to see the loco come round the bend running perfectly well on two tracks so I had a little play. Hi Chris, I want to see a locomotive where the driver gets his knee down motorbike style !!! It's the kind of thing ten year old's do.......................... I must give it a go as soon as possible !!!! Gibbo. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Going round bends on two wheels is a bit tricky with a loco. I operate my Little Aller Junction layout sensibly most of the time at exhibitions but when youngsters are around I put on a bit of a show. The little people seem to enjoy it a lot, as do some big people. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 11 hours ago, Chris M said: Maybe because I’m well known for being daft. Nah - it's called having a healthy sense of humour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, Chris M said: Going round bends on two wheels is a bit tricky with a loco. I operate my Little Aller Junction layout sensibly most of the time at exhibitions but when youngsters are around I put on a bit of a show. The little people seem to enjoy it a lot, as do some big people. That’s pretty impressive. How many people does it take to operate like that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Talltim said: That’s pretty impressive. How many people does it take to operate like that? Just one operator. We sometimes have two operators but then we have to agree who is going to make adjustments. You can't really speak to visitors while running four trains though. It's simple analogue with only two controllers. It's all about watching where the locos on the two middle trains cross each other on the storage sidings and making minor adjustments. One surprising thing is that without any changes to the controller each loco speed alters very slightly over time. If you get it perfectly balanced within a few minutes you can be sure it won't be. Edited January 11, 2020 by Chris M 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I wouldn't recommend a Hornby 50. Oversteering the bogies could result in the wheels rubbing against the body, as you'd probably be pulling the bogies hard-over. Use cheap model designed for trainset curves and tighter for such play activities Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 You'd need a single-bogie powered locomotive. I would guess ones with a central motor and dogbones would have problems with transmission, even breakage of the dogbones. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Train Drifting. Does Mr Kohler know of this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnb Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Bit of a digression from Class 50s, but the old Airfix Mk2s were wonderful for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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