simonkilvington Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 will this work ? and how do I connect my Kato points red and black cables Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonkilvington Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 soeey :- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKeg Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Hi, your track plan should work fine. Just to clarify, the red and black wires on Kato points drive the in built point motors. If you want to change them with dcc, you can connect the two wires from the point to a suitable accessory decoder (one capable of driving two wire point motors). I have used the digitrax ds52 in the past for this, and they have worked very well. With regards to connecting your track to your dcc system, this can be made very simple. If you configure each of your points to constantly pass power all the time (this is done by altering one of the small screws on the bottom of each point) then the two wires from your dcc system should power every part of the track all of the time. This is one of the benefits of the Kato track system for dcc users. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2020 26 minutes ago, TheKeg said: Hi, your track plan should work fine. Just to clarify, the red and black wires on Kato points drive the in built point motors. If you want to change them with dcc, you can connect the two wires from the point to a suitable accessory decoder (one capable of driving two wire point motors). I have used the digitrax ds52 in the past for this, and they have worked very well. With regards to connecting your track to your dcc system, this can be made very simple. If you configure each of your points to constantly pass power all the time (this is done by altering one of the small screws on the bottom of each point) then the two wires from your dcc system should power every part of the track all of the time. This is one of the benefits of the Kato track system for dcc users. The DCC Concepts ADS-2SX decoder (coming back into stock very soon if another thread is correct) will work Kato motors when fitted with the SDC 3 to 2 wire adapter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonkilvington Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 " If you configure each of your points to constantly pass power all the time (this is done by altering one of the small screws on the bottom of each point) then the two wires from your dcc system should power every part of the track all of the time. " Thank you as not all my points are not isolated, this was my next question. :- If I connect my z21 to the bottom track, with blue going to the top rail. And points 1 are NOT isolated, so straight 1 or 2 have power. Then points 2 ARE isolated. So everything is dead from this point. As I have been told NOT to directly connect my red and black wires out of my points to the bus wire, I cannot check, at this moment in time, to see IF the track is also fed power, or if it is just the point motor ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonkilvington Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 "The DCC Concepts ADS-2SX decoder (coming back into stock very soon if another thread is correct) will work Kato motors when fitted with the SDC 3 to 2 wire adapter." cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonkilvington Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 "(this is done by altering one of the small screws on the bottom of each point)" where ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKeg Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 These are the screws that are used to configure the point. Kato points are designed to be sealed units, so under normal circumstances there should be no reason to take the bottom plate off completely. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonkilvington Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 I have just looked at my N gauge points ............................... It is OO gauge ! Which are different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonkilvington Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 so :- OK ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I would move the main Roco z21 to the right of the "Live points" word. Then power flows in all the main loops points correctly. The siding feeds are fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKeg Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 hours ago, simonkilvington said: I have just looked at my N gauge points ............................... It is OO gauge ! Which are different. That does indeed change the situation. https://jamestrainparts.com/2018/04/02/improving-kato-unitrack-ho-points-for-dcc-operation/ This is quite a useful guide for modifying the HO points for better DCC use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonkilvington Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) many thanks :- If I just solder these 2 black wires Edited January 17, 2020 by simonkilvington Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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