simonkilvington Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 How do I connect my Kato points to my Bus wire ? I have a red and a black wire coming out of my points. Do I simply join them ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Hasn't this been answered here? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) No . You do not connect a point motors feed wires directly to a DCC bus pair of wires. You have to use, for DCC operation, an Accessory decoder which is installed between the DCC system and the point motor. Accessory decoder can depending on make have 1, 2, 4 , 6 or 8 separate outputs to operate that number of motors. Your problem is that Kato point motors require two wires to feed the motor, where as more conventional solenoid motors use three wires. The two Kato wires have to have the polarity reversed on them and need only a short pulse of power applied to the wires from the accessory decoder. As most pulse type accessory decoders work on three wire outputs the use of a three to two wire converter device will also be needed, unless you can locate an accessory decoder designed to work Kato motors directly. DCC Concepts produce a three to two wire converter which they state is suitable for use with Kato motors plus of course you would need the pulse accessory decoder too. Edited January 13, 2020 by Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveyH Posted January 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2020 A Digitrax DS64 will switch your Kato points. I am sure there are others, but I have used this one successfully in the past. Davey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) You asked the same question two years ago here! .... Link to item Edited January 13, 2020 by Brian Text corrected Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonkilvington Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 A Digitrax DS64 will switch your Kato points. not wishing to sound stupid ..................... is it a case of just joining the 2 wires to it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonkilvington Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 Brian sorry but I can;t or couldn't find it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveyH Posted January 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2020 This support page will tell you all you need to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonkilvington Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 many thanks I HAVE got some serious reading to do ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonkilvington Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 Brian ......................... I AM getting there All be it in true BR style ................... Delayed ! lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonkilvington Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) KATO 22-018-1 HO or N Scale Power Pack Standard SX - 220181 ??????? CONFUSED .................. DOT COM I just need 1 of these to control 4 points. But is that it ? Does this unit operate the switch ? Or do I need X4 of the switch below ? Edited January 13, 2020 by simonkilvington Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 will the points operate individually? if they will then you will need 4 x switches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonkilvington Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 I thought as much ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) But that is not DCC operation. Its analogue using switches! What exactly do you want to use - DCC (Digital) or DC or AC (Analogue) to operate these point motors??? As you posted in the forums DCC section it was assumed you wanted to use the DCC system! Edited January 13, 2020 by Brian Text updated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonkilvington Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 I did and still do. But I was just curious to see, how much it would cost to NOT to DCC my points. As an alternative to me strugling ! Is this what you mean ? :- Dcc31 Gaugemaster Accessory Decoder For Kato Unitrack Product Description: Suitable for the following scale(s): N Scale HO Scale OO ScaleEasy to use Cost effective control for a single Kato Unitrack turnout or other similar device ...more » £9.65 So the best part of £40 for all 4. I know I go on about the money. But as a life changing Motorbike accident some 18 years ago, more of here www.sportsbiking.co.uk , left me disabled I can longer work for a living. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonkilvington Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 will this work ? X2 wires from my z21 into :- DCC31 Gaugemaster Accessory Decoder for Kato UniTrack into my red and black wires from my kato points ????????????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 They certainly look like they will work however you could always ring Gaugemaster or write to them and get the definitive answer because they sell the item and are therefore more liable to know if they meet your needs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonkilvington Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) good idea thanks Edited January 14, 2020 by simonkilvington Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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