Transfers Inside Windows/ Reversed

[Jamiel]

I have a set of Fox transfers I was about to apply to the inside of some windows on a multiple unit, and I realised that I don’t know if they are printed on the same side as the adhesive (reversed from the usual transfers).
 

The set is for ‘First Class’ and ‘No Smoking’ symbols in the 1950/60s BR days (they now do bigger separate sheets for each symbol than the one I have which is FRH 4019: 4mm/OO).
 

https://fox-transfers.co.uk/first-class-window-graphics-58263
 

I can go and try them and let you know the results, but I am sure there must be modellers here who have encountered this question and no doubt will have some good advice before I make a start.
 

Jamie

Edited January 18, 2020 by Jamiel

[Jamiel]

I did a test using the ‘Fox TRANSFERS’ logo from the bottom of the sheet. I wrecked the ‘x’ in process, but discovered that the transfers seem to stick on both sides. I hope this is permanent as I then went ahead and did the ‘first class’ and ‘first class, no smoking’ windows in the DMU unit I am working on.

 

 

As seen here. I also discovered that Fox transfers do not have a surrounding area of film, which is really good for the window work.

 

For doing transfers as small as this I use a bottle top for the warm water, tweezers and a scalpel.

 

Any other experiences people have would interesting to hear.
 

Jamie

[Jamiel]

A quick update, I brushed some dust from the inside of the unit with a large soft brush and it moved one of the 'First Class' stickers, so I don't think they are adhesive on both sides. I suspect it is just that it fried in that place, and so hold to the window rather than being stuck to it. I forget what the word is for that type of loose, but not sealed bond is.

I am wondering if I could dab a tiny bit of something like washing up liquid on the transfer that has moved to make it stick, or perhaps some watered down PVA. I would use a cocktail stick to add the tiniest amount.

Any thoughts.

I am also posting this in my ‘Ellerby’ layout thread. Linked below.

[cctransuk]

20 minutes ago, Jamiel said:

A quick update, I brushed some dust from the inside of the unit with a large soft brush and it moved one of the 'First Class' stickers, so I don't think they are adhesive on both sides. I suspect it is just that it fried in that place, and so hold to the window rather than being stuck to it. I forget what the word is for that type of loose, but not sealed bond is.

I am wondering if I could dab a tiny bit of something like washing up liquid on the transfer that has moved to make it stick, or perhaps some watered down PVA. I would use a cocktail stick to add the tiniest amount.

Any thoughts.

I am also posting this in my ‘Ellerby’ layout thread. Linked below.

 

I can't speak for Fox transfers, but my (Cambridge Custom Transfers) window labels are intended to be applied to the inside of the window.

 

Nonetheless, I always apply a coat of Klear to the inside of the window in order to seal the transfer; once dried, the Klear is invisible.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

[Nickey Line]

I might be stating the obvious, but why not ask Fox.

[Roger Wood]

Replica Railways supply these in normal or reverse form for applying either inside or outside.

£2.70 a sheet last time I looked.

 

HTH

 

Roger